# Oscar Nominations **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 11, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350 "2003-02-11T14:52:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dr.Righteous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Dr.Righteous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Righteous)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/41 "2003-02-11T19:37:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wolverine \* > \*\*Interesting, LOTR: The Two Towers was nominated for Best Picture but not Director. \*\* Didn’t they do that last year too? I really want RotK to win best picture and Jackson to win for director. I don’t know why I care so much… its not like winning such an award will have any impact on the ability of people to keep making these kind of movies for me to enjoy (only the $$ it earns matters for that). I guess I’m tired of an entire genre, one I’m a huge fan of, constantly being written off as fluffy fun stuff and incapable of any kind of deep meaning. Buffy (back when the writing was superb and really deserved it) never got nominated for an Emmy. Oh well. I’ll just have to make myself happy with the wild box office success and the ever expanding fan base scifi movies have. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Righteous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Dr.Righteous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Righteous)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/42 "2003-02-11T19:44:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wolverine \* > \*\*Interesting, LOTR: The Two Towers was nominated for Best Picture but not Director. \*\* Didn’t they do that last year too? I really want RotK to win best picture and Jackson to win for director. I don’t know why I care so much… its not like winning such an award will have any impact on the ability of people to keep making these kind of movies for me to enjoy (only the $$ it earns matters for that). I guess I’m tired of an entire genre, one I’m a huge fan of, constantly being written off as fluffy fun stuff and incapable of any kind of deep meaning. Buffy (back when the writing was superb and really deserved it) never got nominated for an Emmy. Oh well. I’ll just have to make myself happy with the wild box office success and the ever expanding fan base scifi movies have. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Righteous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Dr.Righteous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Righteous)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/43 "2003-02-11T19:50:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wolverine \* > \*\*Interesting, LOTR: The Two Towers was nominated for Best Picture but not Director. \*\* Didn’t they do that last year too? I really want RotK to win best picture and Jackson to win for director. I don’t know why I care so much… its not like winning such an award will have any impact on the ability of people to keep making these kind of movies for me to enjoy (only the $$ it earns matters for that). I guess I’m tired of an entire genre, one I’m a huge fan of, constantly being written off as fluffy fun stuff and incapable of any kind of deep meaning. Buffy (back when the writing was superb and really deserved it) never got nominated for an Emmy. Oh well. I’ll just have to make myself happy with the wild box office success and the ever expanding fan base scifi movies have. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/44 "2003-02-11T19:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Day-Lewis, hands down, of course. Without him and Jim Broadbent that movie wouldn’t have been worth the price of admission if it included a handjob. HAH. This is the funniest thing I have read all day. Sampiro, you should be a movie critic. 😃 I was very surprised to hear Paul Newman nominated. Sympathy vote, I’m sure. Was Michael Caine Nominated? (I just love him) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/45 "2003-02-11T20:11:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Righteous \* > \*\*Didn’t they do that last year too? > > I really want RotK to win best picture and Jackson to win for director. \*\* They didn’t do it to Jackson last year; he was nominated for Best Director for “The Fellowship of the Ring.” They DID do it to Baz Luhrmann, who was not nomited even though he directed “Moulin Rouge!” (which was nominated) and Todd Field, who was not nominated even though he directed “In The Bedroom,” which was. Nominated in their places were Ridley Scott, who directed “Black Hawk Down,” and David Lynch, who directed “Mulholland Drive.” It happens every year: 2001: Snubbed: Lasse Hallstrom for the Best-Picture-nominated “Chocolat” Instead, They Picked: Stephen Daldry for “Billy Elliott” 2000: Snubbed: Frank Darabont, for the Best-Picture-nominated “The Green Mile” Instead, They Picked: Spike Jonze for “Being John Malkovich” 1999: Snubbed: Shekhar Kapur for the BP-nominated “Elizabeth” Instead, They Picked: Peter Weir for “the Truman Show” ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/46 "2003-02-11T20:50:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ArchiveGuy \* > \*\* I’d argue **Return of the King** is already positioned as the favorite for the Big Enchilada next year. > \*\* Actually, MSNBC said as much today. They predicted that Jackson will win Best Director and LOTR will win Best Film at next years Oscar. And baring some unforseen masterpiece (Shindler’s List - the Musical), I would agree. To a certain extent, it is only fair…unlike the Godfather films that were 3 individual films, the LOTR trilogy is, in a sense, one huge 9+ hour film that has not been shown in its entirety yet. I think it is safe to say the Academy will not let this cinematic milestone go unhonored, even if they have to make up a new category to give it its due. The fact that the the Academy has nominated parts 1 & 2 shows there is a groundswell of support just waiting for the third film to unspool before they cast those final ballots. As far as this year goes, yes Chicago is currently the front runner, but the film studio marketing departments have their marching orders as of today…stand back and watch the fur fly. There will be a few surprises in store after the backstabbing marketing campaigns finish. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/47 "2003-02-11T21:03:39Z")
Barry Fitzgerald was nominated in Actor **AND** Supporting actor for the _exact same role_, Father Fitzgibbon in Going My Way. He won actor but didn’t win Supporting Actor. The rules have since been changed of course. [http://us.imdb.com/Pawards?Fitzgerald,%20Barry](http://us.imdb.com/Pawards?Fitzgerald,%20Barry) ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/48 "2003-02-11T21:30:14Z")
I’m a little upset that _Igby Goes Down_ didn’t get a single nomination. I think Susan Sarandon or Kieren Culkin should have got one. I liked it better than _Gangs of New York_ and if I were the academy, I’d switch these pictures in the best picture category. I’m generally satisfied with the nominations, however. I’ve seen all of the movies this year and the ones that got nominated are generally deserving. I’m not a big fan of musicals in general so for that reason, I’m not a huge _Chicago_ fan. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/49 "2003-02-11T21:32:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Man Who \* > \*\* > And if you thought the “Blame Canada” controversy was fun, I’d like to thank the Academy for nominating “Lose Yourself” from “8 Mile.” Thanks. > > -Myron \*\* What dio you mean? That’s the only song in 10 years non-Disney that is a virtual lock to win the award, that the masses know at least a little bit of it. We were all waiting for Eminem to put out a positive song, to see if he can. This is probably the easiest nomination the Academy had ever. No controversy at all. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/50 "2003-02-11T21:48:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DMark \* > \*\* > To a certain extent, it is only fair…unlike the Godfather films that were 3 individual films, the LOTR trilogy is, in a sense, one huge 9+ hour film that has not been shown in its entirety yet. I think it is safe to say the Academy will not let this cinematic milestone go unhonored, even if they have to make up a new category to give it its due. The fact that the the Academy has nominated parts 1 & 2 shows there is a groundswell of support just waiting for the third film to unspool before they cast those final ballots. > \*\* From your lips to the Academy’s ears. The individual films are excellent, worthy of Oscar consideration. Taken as a whole–it’s mind-boggling what Peter Jackson has done. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/51 "2003-02-11T22:04:17Z")
What’s going to be interesting is if Michael Moore wins, because Charlton Heston is almost certain to be there (and as a former Best Actor Oscar winner he’s a guaranteed invite). I hope that if it happens, Charlton pulls out a Magnum .357, clips Moore in front of 1 billion viewers, and then says “Wha? I got Alzheimers. Now get out of my way, I’ve got to get ready for the Oscars tonight.” Does that make me a bad person? ---
**Author:** ![aaaaaarrgg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@aaaaaarrgg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aaaaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/52 "2003-02-12T00:37:38Z")
i thought ‘gollums song’ was fabulous and really wanted it to get a nomination. oh well. if spirited away doesn’t win best animated picture, i will be ANGRY. and as for lotr, i don’t mind the snubs this year so long as next year it just takes the cake. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/53 "2003-02-12T01:05:59Z")
_Premiere_ magazine had the tidbit that it’s been 21 years since all five nominated Best Movies and Best Directors matched up. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/54 "2003-02-12T01:39:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \* > \*\*Got to love that new “Best Animated Feature” category. > > Looks like all five animated features released last year were nominated. \*\* Yeah, but it’s the only way the really good ones are going to get recognized as pseduo-art like the rest of the nominees as opposed to just children’s movies. I gave up caring about the awards a long time ago, but they got me interested again with the animated feature category. Since there’s nothing like the inexplicably popular _Shrek_ getting in the way (I _still_ don’t understand how _anyone_ could think that was superior to _Monsters Inc_) it’s obviously going to go to one of the Disney movies. Since the awards aren’t really a measure of quality anymore, if they ever were, I can’t tell if I want to root for _Spirited Away_ or _Lilo and Stitch_. _Spirited Away_ is the obvious choice, because not only is it an outstanding movie, but it’s got plenty of spectacle, and it’s Japanese, and everybody knows that Japanese animation is “art” while American animation is cheap, crass entertainment and commercialism. (Note: that’s me being sarcastic there.) Plus, getting an academy award might finally convince Disney to get off their asses and do real releases of the rest of the Studio Ghibli movies they’ve been sitting on. But I liked _Lilo and Stitch_ so much more; in retrospect, either that or _The Two Towers_ was my favorite movie of last year. And I’d like to see it get awarded so that Disney will finally be convinced that their formula movies are only going to take them so far. _Lilo and Stitch_ is still very much a Disney movie, but without cheesy pop songs and huge musical numbers and wacky sidekicks voiced by aging comedians, and it also broke from the formula by having the two main characters be very dysfunctional bastards for most of the movie. An award (plus the fact that the formulaic, by-the-numbers _Treasure Planet_ didn’t do well financially or critically) might finally convince them that, yes, _The Little Mermaid_ was a great movie, but you can’t keep making the same movie over and over again for 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Intaglio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/71e660/32.png) [@Intaglio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intaglio)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/55 "2003-02-12T01:52:27Z")
It would be funny if Treasure Planet won Best Animated Movie, it might re-release to recoup some money Disney put into this movie. Richard Gere has got to be PISSED, after winning the Golden Globe and not get nominated for the Oscar. Leonardo DiCaprio has got to be Pissed also for not getting nominated, got snubbed for Titanic and this year too, wonder if he’ll be a No-Show at the Academy Awards. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/56 "2003-02-12T02:27:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Treviathan \* > **Can someone explain the absence of nominations for _Y Tu Mama Tambien_ and _Talk to Her_ in the Best Foreign Film category? Since they both got nods in other categories, I’m assuming they’re eligible, right?** Foreign Film follows [different rules](http://www.oscars.org/75academyawards/rules/rule14.html) than most of the other categories. Each country (or their film board/commitee) gets to pick one film they want to make eligible for the Foreign Film Oscar. Neither of these films were picked. _Y Tu Mama Tambien_ would have been eligible last year, not this year, since it came out in Mexico on June 8th, 2001. So you missed your proper chance to complain. As far as _Talk to Her_, the Spanish Cinema Academy choose _Mondays in the Sun_ as their nominee instead. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/57 "2003-02-12T06:19:33Z")
I can’t believe _Confessions of a Dangerous Mind_ got shut out. Sam Rockwell should at least have been nominated. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/58 "2003-02-12T15:08:58Z")
RE: Cinematography and Two Towers. Two Towers is a really different movie than Fellowship - at least regarding the cinematography. Much darker. Close shot and cut battle scenes. Plus, they had less need to play with the height thing (which was so astounding in Fellowship). Fellowship deserved its nominiation - I can see where Two Towers could not get a nomination/ I think LotRs as a whole should get a Special Acheivement Oscar. I doubt if RotK will win Best Picture - and no one knows - few have seen much of it, and fewer have seen it along with what its competition is likely to be. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/59 "2003-02-12T15:31:07Z")
If Best Picture and Best Director were the same thing, they would be one award, IMHO. PJ not getting nominated is more of a surprise because he did get a DGA nomination. Brian ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350/60 "2003-02-12T16:04:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \* > \*\*Looks like all five animated features released last year were nominated. \*\* Nah… **Adam Sandler’s Eight Crazy Nights** must feel like the only girl in school without a date for the prom. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations/154350.md?page=4)