# Oscar observations

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 27, 2000, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243 "2000-03-27T05:59:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/21 "2000-03-27T16:43:00Z")

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(from Variety)

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> But not all fun, I reminded Richard Z. On Friday night, during rehearsals for the musical number, musical director Burt Bacharach (with Don Was) decided not to go with Whitney Houston and she was taken off the show! What to do? Lili came up with the suggestion of Faith Hill – with whom she had done a video; and will do another music video with her in Paris next month. Hill was SOS’d – and replaced Houston. Don Was expressed feelings of sadness for Houston and what is happening with her.

So what’s up with Whitney. Enquiring minds want to know???  
Keith

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**Author:** ![mega\_the\_roo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@mega\_the\_roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mega_the_roo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/22 "2000-03-27T17:01:00Z")

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> Why did the directors of Best Documentary Short bring that guy if they knew he might have a seizure on camera like that?

probably because he **didn’t** have a seizure, and because he was their star.

and yes, he was just excited. just because, if one of us were to react like that, it would have meant something more, doesn’t mean it does for him.

the key thing to remember is: people are **different**.

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/23 "2000-03-27T17:27:00Z")

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Well, I tried to not watch it but I did catch about a half an hour. I was really pleased that John Irving won for best adapted screenplay (CHR should’ve won best picture, too but oh well.) Thought his speech was very gutsy.

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> Originally posted by Rilchiam:  
> \*\*Didn’t think much of the gowns, except Trey Parker’s.
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OK, someone post a pic of this or e-mail it to me RIGHT NOW!

And I think we all know Warren Beatty was being honored for his groundbreaking work as Milton Armitage in _Dobie Gillis_; but do we have to play “how many times can we refer to Annette “Baby Machine” Benning’s pregnancy?”

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**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/24 "2000-03-27T17:27:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Odieman:  
> **So what’s up with Whitney. Enquiring minds want to know???**

Supposedly, she had a throat problem and bowed out. (This is according to the E! website) Just as well…if she proclaims Bobby Brown to be the “KING of R&B” ONE MORE TIME, I am not responsible for my actions.

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/25 "2000-03-27T17:43:00Z")

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> Originally posted by voguevixen:  
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> > Originally posted by Rilchiam:  
> > \*\*Didn’t think much of the gowns, except Trey Parker’s.
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> OK, someone post a pic of this or e-mail it to me RIGHT NOW!  
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Whoops! Never mind…there’s one in Eve’s thread.

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**Author:** ![Catrandom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@Catrandom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catrandom)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/26 "2000-03-27T17:51:00Z")

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I thought Jane Fonda looked rather nice, myself, dressing like a grown-up lady rather than an elderly teenager. The only disaster dress of the evening, imho, was that thing Diane Keaton had on. _What_ was with that stupid bouquet on her chest? It looked like a growth.

Catrandom

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**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/27 "2000-03-28T06:17:00Z")

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Warren Beatty: “Geez, how much longer can this guy talk?”

Kevin Spacey: “Who’s that chick he’s kissing! He’s mine, dammit!” Oh and…“YAY! He won! Woooo-hooo!”

I loved Angelina Jolie’s acceptance speech. But then again, I love her anyway.

Big bunches of YAY for American Beauty.

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**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/28 "2000-03-28T06:21:00Z")

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What about the horrid dress Julianne Moore was wearing? It was designed by someone great, but was just awful.

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**Author:** ![quadell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/b9bd4f/32.png) [@quadell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quadell)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/29 "2000-03-28T06:48:00Z")

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Wendell Wagner, if you actually live for a couple years as a turnip. . . you know, bury yourself in the ground and not move. . . then I’ll be happy to call you one. 🙂

Seriously, Brandon lived as a guy and refered to himself as “he”, so I have no problem refering to him that way. You can call him a she if you want. He was a woman in terms of his genitals, but he was a man in terms of every other aspect of his life. So I think my pronoun’s more accurate.

Not to sabotage the thread or anything. . .

Your Quadell

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/30 "2000-03-28T06:53:00Z")

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Yay on you, Quadell—I’m glad “Boys Don’t Cry” wasn’t up for Best Picture, just because I shudder to think of what lame jokes Billy Crystal would’ve made . . .

I don’t like Jane Fonda and I didn’t much care for her dress, which I thought was too “last days of Mae West.” Thought Cher looked great, though! And did anyone notice all the dresses with trains? Looked wonderful, but all the little starlets were trippin’ over them.

Chris, have you heard the rumors about the delectable Mr. Spacey? I don’t want to be the one to burst your balloon, but . . .

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/31 "2000-03-28T06:56:00Z")

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P.S. I just remembered what annoyed me so much—where were all the old-timers? Loretta Young? Shirley Temple? Fay Wray? Mickey Rooney? Olivia De Havilland? Doug Fairbanks Jr.?

When I was a kid, one of the thrills of Oscar night was seeing Lillian Gish or Gloria Swanson come out to present. Now the “old-timers” are Warren Beatty and Jack Nicholson!

I’m just gettin’ old, I guess . . .

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/32 "2000-03-27T19:50:00Z")

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Eve, you know more about this than I do, but aren’t most of those people dead, or debilitated beyond the point of going to an awards show? Nicholson and Beatty are older than they look. I think Beatty is 60, give or take a year. I know there was a time when they were young and dangerous, but now they’re elder statesmen. And they’ve earned it!

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**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/33 "2000-03-27T19:54:00Z")

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> but do we have to play “how many times can we refer to Annette “Baby Machine” Benning’s pregnancy?”

I watched the Oscars just to see if she’d go into labor during the ceremony. If this were a movie, you know she would have!

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**Author:** ![Globe-trotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@Globe-trotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Globe-trotter)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/34 "2000-03-27T20:00:00Z")

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I’d like to know what the hell Tyra Banks was wearing. Now there’s another proof that models should not be heard.

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“I thought: opera, how hard can it be? Songs. Pretty girls dancing. Nice scenery. Lots of people handing over cash. Got to be better than the cut-throat world of yoghurt, I thought.” - Seldom Bucket

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/35 "2000-03-27T20:01:00Z")

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Uh…I’m ashamed to admit that I’ve read **Scruples** , by Judith Krantz…but I was at my MIL’s house, and her literature collection hasn’t been updated in many years. Anyway, that was in the last chapter. The charming, irrepressible, zaftig, very very pregnant Best Supporting Actress nominee’s water broke right when her name was being called.

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“His eyes are as green as a fresh-pickled toad,  
His hair is as dark as a blackboard,  
I wish he was mine, he’s really divine,  
The hero who conquered the Dark Lord.”

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**Author:** ![bedboy4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@bedboy4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bedboy4)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/36 "2000-03-27T20:05:00Z")

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I guess no one noticed that Ashley Judd looked skinnier than Calista Flockhart, if that is possible

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2000, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/37 "2000-03-27T21:14:00Z")

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> Originally posted by **Gazoo** :
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> Did anyone else notice a voice while they were intoducing the nominees for best short Live action film? As the films were announced I swear I heard “Not that one” followed by “Not that one either” and when they got to the last one it said “That’s the One.” The last one introduced was the winner! I was taking cold medicine so maybe I hallucinated the whole thing!

What you didn’t catch was Jude Law introducing the nominees and saying they include the weirdest-named movie of the year, so as the names of the films went by, he was saying, “No, that’s not the weirdest… no, not that one… THAT one.” That one also happened to win. It was “My Grandmother has a thing for Hell’s angels” or somesuch.

Brandon Teena referred to himself as a man, and as far as I’m concerned, that’s good enough for me - he’s a he, and I won’t insult his memory by calling him something else.

IMHO, Queen Latifa was ON with those big band noizes! {ahem}

I’m glad Kevin Spacey and Michael Caine won.

I’m upset Blame Canada didn’t, because dammit I wanted them up on that stage in those dresses!

Billy Crystal and Robin Williams rule, IMHO.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/38 "2000-03-28T02:08:00Z")

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Esprix writes:

\> Brandon Teena referred to himself as a  
\> man, and as far as I’m concerned, that’s  
\> good enough for me - he’s a he, and I  
\> won’t insult his memory by calling him  
\> something else.

Give me a break, Exprix. That’s sentimental hogwash. This is the Straight Dope Message Board, and you need to get used to the fact that someone’s beliefs do not change the facts - not even if that person died a martyr in a good cause.

Teena Brandon was a woman who chose to live and dress as a man during the last few months (or was it years?) of her life. She used the name Brandon Teena and only had sex with women during that time. Fine. That doesn’t change the fact that she wasn’t a man and I’m not a turnip.

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**Author:** ![Ursa\_Major](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a88e57/32.png) [@Ursa\_Major](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ursa_Major)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/39 "2000-03-28T03:35:00Z")

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If you referred to yourself as a turnip and wished others to address you as such, Wendell, I’d be happy to oblige. It’s only common courtesy to call people what they wish to be called.

My only comment on the Oscars:

Charlize Theron…HOT!!!

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**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-observations/15243/40 "2000-03-28T03:46:00Z")

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Eve: I heard that rumor. I also heard that he denied it. It really doesn’t matter…in my daydreams, he’s undeniably straight and totally into _me_. 🙂

And that’s all that really counts, isn’t it?

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