# Oscar season 2012 has begun! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 5, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118 "2012-12-05T20:38:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/61 "2013-01-10T13:45:16Z")
Damn, Affleck didn’t get the B. Director nomination, nor did Bigelow for ZD30… > **[The Oscars 2023 | 95th Academy Awards](https://abc.com/shows/oscars/collection/nominees)** > > Get the latest news about the 2023 Oscars, including nominations, winners, predictions and red carpet fashion at 95th Academy Awards Oscar.com. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/62 "2013-01-10T13:55:59Z")
Interesting. Is Quvenzhané Wallis the youngest nominee ever? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/63 "2013-01-10T13:57:22Z")
I don’t know about “ever”, but they mentioned she was the youngest for this category. The kid from _Kramer vs. Kramer_ was 8 when he was nominated. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/64 "2013-01-10T14:49:44Z")
Best Picture Amour Argo Beasts of the Southern Wild Django Unchained Les Miserables Life of Pi Lincoln Silver Linings Playbook Zero Dark Thirty Best Actor Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook Daniel Day-Lewis, Lincoln Hugh Jackman, Les Miserables Joaquin Phoenix, The Master Denzel Washington, Flight Best Actress Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook Emmanuelle Riva, Amour Quvenzhane Wallis, Beasts of the Southern Wild Naomi Watts, The Impossible Best Supporting Actor Alan Arkin, Argo Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master Tommy Lee Jones, Lincoln Christoph Waltz, Django Unchained Best Supporting Actress Amy Adams, The Master Sally Field, Lincoln Anne Hathaway, Les Miserables Helen Hunt, The Sessions Jacki Weaver, Silver Linings Playbook Best Director Michael Haneke, Amour Ang Lee, Life of Pi David O. Russell, Silver Linings Playbook Steven Spielberg, Lincoln Benh Zeitlin, Beasts of the Southern Wild Best Original Screenplay Amour, Michael Hanake Django Unchained, Quentin Tarantino Flight, John Gatins Moonrise Kingdom, Wes Anderson and Roman Coppola Zero Dark Thirty, Mark Boal Best Adapted Screenplay Argo, Chris Terrio Beasts of the Southern Wild, Lucy Alibar and Benh Zeitlin, Life of Pi, David Magee Lincoln, Tony Kushner Silver Linings Playbook, David O. Russell Best Animated Feature: Brave Frankenweenie ParaNorman The Pirates! Band of Misfits Wreck-It Ralph Best Cinematography Anna Karenina, Seamus McGarvey Django Unchained, Robert Richardson Life of Pi, Claudio Miranda Lincoln, Janusz Kaminski Skyfall, Roger Deakins Best Costume Design Anna Karenina, Jacqueline Durran Les Misérables, Paco Delgado Lincoln, Joanna Johnston Mirror Mirror, Eiko Ishioka Snow White and the Huntsman, Colleen Atwood Best Documentary Feature 5 Broken Cameras The Gatekeepers How to Survive a Plague The Invisible War Searching for Sugar Man Best Documentary Short Inocente Kings Point Mondays at Racine Open Heart Redemption Best Film Editing Argo, William Goldenberg Life of Pi, Tim Squyres Lincoln, Michael Kahn Silver Linings Playbook, Jay Cassidy and Crispin Struthers Zero Dark Thirty, Dylan Tichenor and William Goldenberg Best Foreign Language Film Amour, Austria Kon-Tiki, Norway No, Chile A Royal Affair, Denmark War Witch, Canada Best Makeup and Hairstyling Hitchcock, Howard Berger, Peter Montagna and Martin Samuel The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, Peter Swords King, Rick Findlater and Tami Lane Les Misérables, Lisa Westcott and Julie Dartnell Best Original Score Anna Karenina, Dario Marianelli Argo, Alexandre Desplat Life of Pi, Mychael Danna Lincoln, John Williams Skyfall, Thomas Newman Best Original Song “Before My Time” from Chasing Ice, music and lyric by J. Ralph “Everybody Needs A Best Friend” from Ted, music by Walter Murphy; lyric by Seth MacFarlane “Pi’s Lullaby” from Life of Pi, music by Mychael Danna; lyric by Bombay Jayashri “Skyfall” from Skyfall, music and lyric by Adele Adkins and Paul Epworth “Suddenly” from Les Misérables, music by Claude-Michel Schönberg; lyric by Herbert Kretzmer and Alain Boublil Best Production Design Anna Karenina, Production Design: Sarah Greenwood; Set Decoration: Katie Spencer The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, production Design: Dan Hennah; Set Decoration: Ra Vincent and Simon Bright Les Misérables, Production Design: Eve Stewart; Set Decoration: Anna Lynch-Robinson Life of Pi, Production Design: David Gropman; Set Decoration: Anna Pinnock Lincoln, Production Design: Rick Carter; Set Decoration: Jim Erickson Best Animated Short Adam and Dog Fresh Guacamole Head over Heels Maggie Simpson in “The Longest Daycare” Paperman Best Live Action Short Asad Buzkashi Boys Curfew Death of a Shadow Henry Best Sound Editing Argo, Erik Aadahl and Ethan Van der Ryn Django Unchained, Wylie Stateman Life of Pi, Eugene Gearty and Philip Stockton Skyfall, Per Hallberg and Karen Baker Landers Zero Dark Thirty, Paul N.J. Ottosson Best Sound Mixing Argo, John Reitz, Gregg Rudloff and Jose Antonio Garcia Les Misérables, Andy Nelson, Mark Paterson and Simon Hayes Life of Pi, Ron Bartlett, D.M. Hemphill and Drew Kunin Lincoln, Andy Nelson, Gary Rydstrom and Ronald Judkins Skyfall, Scott Millan, Greg P. Russell and Stuart Wilson Best Visual Effects The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, Joe Letteri, Eric Saindon, David Clayton and R. Christopher White Life of Pi, Bill Westenhofer, Guillaume Rocheron, Erik-Jan De Boer and Donald R. Elliott The Avengers, Janek Sirrs, Jeff White, Guy Williams and Dan Sudick Prometheus, Richard Stammers, Trevor Wood, Charley Henley and Martin Hill Snow White and the Huntsman, Cedric Nicolas-Troyan, Philip Brennan, Neil Corbould and Michael Dawson [http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/01/10/oscar-nominations2013/](http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/01/10/oscar-nominations2013/) ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/65 "2013-01-10T15:05:43Z")
The directors category has to be the most surprising at all, only lining up 2/5 with the guild. A lot of people were predicting Tom Hooper to be left out, since the reception for his direction for **Les Miserables** has been mixed, but Ben Affleck and Kathryn Bigelow were widely considered locks. I’m happy for Benh Zeitlin, though. **Silver Linings Playbook** is the first movie since **Reds** in 1981 to get nominations in all four acting categories. Jacki Weaver was a huge surprise there. The guilds have yet to announce their winners, but I have to think that **Lincoln** is the frontrunner at this point. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/66 "2013-01-10T15:13:13Z")
I also note that there are no nominations for big-budget movies that the audience loves, “so let’s nominate them as to boost ratings for the award show” - no **Skyfall** , no **Avengers** , nothing. Right now, yeah, it looks like **Lincoln** ’s year… ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/67 "2013-01-10T15:24:05Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Interesting. > > Is Quvenzhané Wallis the youngest nominee ever? Youngest female. Another trivia tidbit; every nominee for Best Supporting Actor already has at least one Oscar in his trophy case. I don’t know if that has ever happened before. ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/68 "2013-01-10T15:44:36Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I also note that there are no nominations for big-budget movies that the audience loves, “so let’s nominate them as to boost ratings for the award show” - no **Skyfall** , no **Avengers** , nothing. > > Right now, yeah, it looks like **Lincoln** ’s year… There might not have been any tentpoles nominated, but this is a pretty box-office-friendly slate of nominees. Four have already cross the $100 million mark ( **Lincoln** , **Argo** , **Django Unchained** , and **Les Miserables** ), and **Life of Pi** might manage to cross that line if it gets enough of a post-nominations bounce. Plus, **Zero Dark Thirty** won’t go into wide release until Friday, and it’s already done huge business in limited release. It’s quite a change over last year’s nominees, where **The Help** was the only big hit among the nominees. ---
**Author:** ![Oedipus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Oedipus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oedipus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/69 "2013-01-10T15:46:23Z")
(This is stream of consciousness as I look at the Oscar list, so hold on) What a shit Oscars list this year. -Pretty much no recognition for movies like Moonrise Kingdom or The Impossible, but a ton of talk for films that really weren’t that amazing like Silver Linings Playbook and Life of Pi. -Bradley Cooper gets a nom for actor in leading role? PLEASE. -What the eff did de Niro do in Silver Linings Playbook? I’ll tell you what he didn’t do. Smash a skull with a hammer and then improvise the whole scene with his hand gashed open. Fuckin give Leo some credit. -I really hope Naomi isn’t overlooked for The Impossible. What a masterful and powerful movie and performance on her part. -WORST. ANIMATED. FEATURE. FILM. LIST. EVER. -No nom going to the Impossible for cinematography. BOO. Hope Django or Skyfall gets the nod. (Side note: Did you see all that crap in Skyfall? That was amazingly filmed and it had an awesome color palette) -No nod to Django for costume design? Wasn’t that the ONE nomination that was secretly released? WTF? -What a crap directing list. No Quentin, No Affleck, and No Bigalow. Enjoy your Oscar, Spielberg. -No Rust and Bone for foreign language film. Again, WTF. -Hitchcock vs. Hobbit for Makeup and Hair. Will be interesting. -Does Django, or any of Quentin’s films for that matter, not get any nods for their music because its not original? -Argo better win adapted screenplay -Django better win original screenplay. -I hope Prometheus gets a nod for all the crazy crap it did for its visual effects. -Music: LET THE SKYFAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/70 "2013-01-10T15:46:58Z")
True, that. I expressed my opinion about a film going into wide release on 1-11-2013 being nominated for 2012 awards earlier in this thread… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/71 "2013-01-10T15:52:36Z")
Random observations: Big love for Beasts of the Souther Wild, and Amour. 🙂 I was hoping for more for Moonrise Kingdom. And The Impossible. ☹ Seth McFarlane got a nomination, could the host win one? 🆒 I don’t really get the love for Alan Arkin. He’s OK, as he always is, but Oscar all the time? I guess I’m missing something in the subtlety of his performance in difficult roles. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/72 "2013-01-10T15:56:52Z")
…Oh yeah, one more… No love for Marion Cotillard in Rust & Bone. Early talk was whe was a shoe in? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/73 "2013-01-10T15:57:55Z")
I have a hazy memory of an award presenter (back in the 40s?) who opened the envelope to find that they were the winner, but I can’t find the reference now. Perhaps I’m mis-remembering things… ---
**Author:** ![Oedipus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Oedipus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oedipus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/74 "2013-01-10T15:59:10Z")
More thoughts: What the fuck is up with Master being snubbed for Cinematography AND Directing AND Best Picture…Come on! Snow White nominated over Cloud Atlas. Cloud Atlas snubfest in general. Fun thought for the day: Mirror Mirror and Snow White & The Huntsman can call themselves “Academy Award Nominated” Films. Looper, Cloud Atlas, and even The Dark Knight Rises can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/75 "2013-01-10T16:19:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I have a hazy memory of an award presenter (back in the 40s?) who opened the envelope to find that they were the winner, but I can’t find the reference now. Perhaps I’m mis-remembering things… Irving Berlin presented the Oscar to himself for Best Song for “White Christmas” from _Holiday Inn_, 1942. The only time this has happened. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/76 "2013-01-10T16:21:44Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/77 "2013-01-10T16:39:10Z")
> [@Oedipus](#): > > -WORST. ANIMATED. FEATURE. FILM. LIST. EVER. > -Does Django, or any of Quentin’s films for that matter, not get any nods for their music because its not original? From the Oscars Rules: “An original score is a substantial body of music that serves as original dramatic underscoring and is written specifically for the motion picture by the submitting composer.” After all, the category is “Outstanding _Original_ Score.” How much of the music in Django Unchained was written for the film? As for Animated Features, what would you have included? Then again, there was a lot of love for stop-motion (Pirates, Frankenweenie, and ParaNorman, right?); apparently, if it’s not stop-motion or Disney, don’t bother. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/78 "2013-01-10T17:39:30Z")
I loved _Silver Linings Playbook_ and would have no problem with it winning Best Picture, but I think De Niro as a nom is stretching it enough; Jacki Weaver definitely feels like too much. I think _Lincoln_ and _Les Mis_ were also over-nominated in various areas, while _Moonrise Kingdom_ seems to be the biggest omission. I’d also like to have seen _The Master_ up for Best Picture, but it’s hard to argue when it got nominations in three of the acting categories. ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/79 "2013-01-10T17:42:18Z")
> [@Oedipus](#): > > What the fuck is up with Master being snubbed for Cinematography AND Directing AND Best Picture…Come on! I could understand not liking the movie overall (even though I loved it), but the cinematography snub is just baffling to me. Surely even people who hate the movie can see how glorious it looks? Grrr. ---
**Author:** ![Oedipus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Oedipus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oedipus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118/80 "2013-01-10T22:38:46Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > From the Oscars Rules: “An original score is a substantial body of music that serves as original dramatic underscoring and is written specifically for the motion picture by the submitting composer.” After all, the category is “Outstanding _Original_ Score.” How much of the music in Django Unchained was written for the film? > > As for Animated Features, what would you have included? Then again, there was a lot of love for stop-motion (Pirates, Frankenweenie, and ParaNorman, right?); apparently, if it’s not stop-motion or Disney, don’t bother. Well there was that cool Ennio Morrichone song he did for it. That aside, it sucks that his whole soundtrack shtick gets overlooked. I was more just saying that there weren’t any really good animated features the year, not that anyone particularly got snubbed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-season-2012-has-begun/643118.md?page=5)