# Oscars 2017 thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 27, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905 "2017-02-27T01:12:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/341 "2017-03-04T23:27:15Z")
_Of course_ he said “The Academy Award” because that’s what he expected to say. He didn’t expect to have to double-check that he was given the correct card. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/342 "2017-03-04T23:40:13Z")
[quote=“eunoia, post:339, topic:780905”] Hollywood just needs more people who can do their jobs. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0-_Qy423i0) [/QUOTE] Would that it were so simple. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/343 "2017-03-04T23:48:24Z")
I thought the most interesting piece I read about this whole fuck up was [The typography fix that could have stopped the Oscars Best Picture blunder.](http://www.vox.com/first-person/2017/3/1/14777110/typography-oscars-2017) It’s an interesting perspective. Even with my limited experience creating handouts designed to convey information I am amazed that this thinking was obviously not taken into account by the people organizing the sets of cards. ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/344 "2017-03-05T00:15:56Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Would that it were so simple. Man is unitary——a simple economic agent. Man’s institutions are split, expressing contradictions that must be worked through. And they are worked through in a causative, predictable way: history is science. This is the essence of the dialectic ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/345 "2017-03-05T01:54:28Z")
They really should hire that guy to do the typography. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/346 "2017-03-05T02:14:42Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > They really should hire that guy to do the typography. Steve Harvey claimed confusion as well when he read the wrong name. His card isn’t as bad as the Oscar one, but he had a terrible time reading it on the spot. [Blurry shot of his card](http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5677767272f2c1c5008b70c3-960/screen%20shot%202015-12-20%20at%2010.46.41%20pm.png) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/347 "2017-03-05T03:05:58Z")
Yeah, that’s not great. And unlike the one for the Oscars, it doesn’t even appear to be attempting anything in the way of aesthetically pleasing typography. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/348 "2017-03-05T05:20:38Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > _Of course_ he said “The Academy Award” because that’s what he expected to say. He didn’t expect to have to double-check that he was given the correct card. My point is that he _already knew he had the wrong card_. He’d already seen it and double-checked it (not shown in that video clip). Why move forward with the presentation when there’s nowhere to go with it? Instead of 1. said, “The Academy Award…” (pause) it should’ve been 1. uhh, guys, I was given the wrong envelope. This one’s for Emma Stone, Best Actress. May I have the envelope for Best Picture? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/349 "2017-03-05T21:19:21Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > My point is that he _already knew he had the wrong card_. He’d already seen it and double-checked it (not shown in that video clip). Why move forward with the presentation when there’s nowhere to go with it? > > Instead of > > 1. said, “The Academy Award…” (pause) > > it should’ve been > > 1. uhh, guys, I was given the wrong envelope. This one’s for Emma Stone, Best Actress. May I have the envelope for Best Picture? As I’ve said (maybe in the other thread, about the accountants): The video shows that Beatty never looks at the front of the envelope. My interpretation is that he assumed: a) I have the Best Picture envelope in my hand (a natural assumption), and b) the person who put the cards in the envelope grabbed the _La La Land_ Best Actress card accidentally when he was reaching for the _La La Land_ Best Picture card. That would explain why Beatty went along with Dunaway when she read “_La La Land_.” He assumed the mistake was about the category (Actress versus Picture), not about the movie (\*La La Land \*versus _Moonlight_.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905.md?page=17)