# Oscars 2017 thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 27, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905 "2017-02-27T01:12:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/121 "2017-02-27T05:17:28Z")
Wait what…Best Picture psyche out! I’m so glad Moonlight won and not La La Land but OMG really Warren Beaty? ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/122 "2017-02-27T05:17:45Z")
Was Steve Harvey reading the winner? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/123 "2017-02-27T05:22:47Z")
For some reason, I thought Dunaway said the name. I have it recorded, but my 15yo _La La Land_ fan is just UPSET. ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/124 "2017-02-27T05:23:56Z")
This was hilarious, though I encourage the inevitable process of re-evaluation and rehabilitation, this was a record. Maybe next week it will be Hail Caesar! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/125 "2017-02-27T05:30:47Z")
Personally, I blame Mr. Peanutbutter… ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/126 "2017-02-27T05:30:49Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > For some reason, I thought Dunaway said the name. She did. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/127 "2017-02-27T05:31:11Z")
Normally, it requires a “wardrobe malfunction” to cause this much DVR replaying. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/128 "2017-02-27T05:35:16Z")
> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#): > > But it’s not his fault; somehow he wound up with the Best Actress card! Yeah he obviously hesitated unsure of what was happening, then Dunaway took the card, probably didn’t read it carefully and plowed ahead. What baffles me is how long it took to correct. There should be a person at the side who can correct such blunders in ten seconds tops especially after what happened with Miss Universe. It would still be embarrassing but not nearly as much as the chaos that unfolded here. ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/129 "2017-02-27T05:39:45Z")
The Oscars You want to look away but you just can’t!© ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/130 "2017-02-27T05:42:52Z")
Someone is out of a job tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/131 "2017-02-27T05:43:33Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > Yeah he obviously hesitated unsure of what was happening, then Dunaway took the card, probably didn’t read it carefully and plowed ahead. > > What baffles me is how long it took to correct. There should be a person at the side who can correct such blunders in ten seconds tops especially after what happened with Miss Universe. It would still be embarrassing but not nearly as much as the chaos that unfolded here. Exactly this. Even more, how did they manage to give them the wrong card? The Best Actress category was already done. Are there duplicate sets of cards backstage? Isn’t someone from Price Waterhouse handing them out? Or did someone put a duplicate Best Actress card in the Best Picture envelope? Either way, I really don’t see how much blame can be put on Beatty or even Dunaway, given how clearly something weird happened. ---
**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/132 "2017-02-27T05:50:38Z")
You just KNOW the Commander-in-Cheeto is going to make some tweet to the effect of, “They spent the whole night slamming me and they can’t even get their own Best Picture right! Sad!” (The difference being, of course, that THIS mistake isn’t going to cause anyone any long-term suffering.) ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/133 "2017-02-27T05:51:16Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > Yeah he obviously hesitated unsure of what was happening, then Dunaway took the card, probably didn’t read it carefully and plowed ahead. > > What baffles me is how long it took to correct. There should be a person at the side who can correct such blunders in ten seconds tops especially after what happened with Miss Universe. It would still be embarrassing but not nearly as much as the chaos that unfolded here. There **is** someone from PWC in the wings. One year, the host (I forget who) brought him out to show the briefcase that he was guarding like it was the nuclear football. But as you said, I would have thought they’d issue the correction before the winners even had a chance to speak. Like everyone else, I’ve been Zaprudering this, and just before the take-back, a guy with a headset is in the center of the group. Then the guy at the mike says “We lost, by the way,” and the bald headed guy says “This is not a joke.” And so forth. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/134 "2017-02-27T05:57:35Z")
I feel bad for Beatty because already he is getting clowned on social media and sites like Drudge Report as an idiot. He was clearly handed the wrong card as evidenced by Dunaway reading out La La Land. If the card said Moonlight, she would have declared Moonlight the winner. Someone in the back screwed up big time, it’s simply not his fault! ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/135 "2017-02-27T05:59:11Z")
Andy Ihnatko Tweeted out [a still frame of the envelope in Warren Beatty’s hand.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5plFdXWgAAMzgz.jpg) It’s a bit hard to read, but it says “Actress In A Leading Role.” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/136 "2017-02-27T06:12:13Z")
[An interesting play-by-play of things backstage from USA Today -](http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/02/27/oscars-2017-academy-awards-backstage-in-the-wings/98453006/) > [@](#): > > Stone wins best actress for La La Land, but the real drama kicks in when La La Land filmmakers take the stage to accept best picture. The accountant from PriceWaterhouseCoopers jumps up and says, “He (presenter Warren Beatty) took the wrong envelope!” and goes running onstage. Craziness breaks out. No one knows how Beatty got a best actress envelope; Stone later tells reporters in the media room that she has been holding her envelope the entire time. and this too - > [@](#): > > Security is looking for Beatty, who had both envelopes. There’s much confusion, because Oscar staffers carefully check presenters before they walk out, to make sure they have the right envelope in hand. Why would Beatty have BOTH envelopes? Sounds to me like whoever was supposed to be checking presenters and their envelopes did a really crap job. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/137 "2017-02-27T06:14:34Z")
What’s everyone’s guess as to how much of a hit PriceWaterhouseCooper stock takes tomorrow morning? My guess is it drops 20-25%. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/138 "2017-02-27T06:20:36Z")
Also, Eric Idle won Twitter: > [@](#): > > Thanks to the 3 million illegal immigrants who just came across the border from Arizona to vote in our Academy Awards. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/139 "2017-02-27T06:23:13Z")
Writer Mark Evanier, who aside from writing numerous comic titles has written for television including variety shows, had this to say on his blog tonight: "I know that someone apparently handed the presenters another Best Actress envelope instead of Best Picture. I just don’t know how they allowed the folks behind La La Land to make their way to the stage and deliver several speeches before the error was corrected. You may recall I once wrote about the near miss back in 1985 when Sir Laurence Olivier presented the Best Picture Oscar to the right film by sheer accident. He didn’t open the envelope but instead announced the first film on the nominee list was the winner…and it happened that the right film, Amadeus, was first in alphabetical order. I was told that after that, a fail-safe system was put in place. The company that tallies the votes has people backstage who know what’s supposed to be in each envelope and if the wrong “winner” is announced, there’s a code or an alert they can issue to stop the proceedings immediately. I dunno if they still do this." ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905/140 "2017-02-27T06:24:20Z")
> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#): > > What’s everyone’s guess as to how much of a hit PriceWaterhouseCooper stock takes tomorrow morning? > > My guess is it drops 20-25%. I highly doubt this will happen. Not only because most won’t associate the flub with PwC, but also because PwC is a privately held company. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-2017-thread/780905.md?page=8)