# Oscar's Red Carpet during war

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**Created:** [March 21, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228 "2003-03-21T22:11:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/1 "2003-03-21T22:11:46Z")

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The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced on March 18:

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> Keeping in mind the world situation, the Academy has elected to prepare a more sober pre-show and a scaled-back arrivals sequence. The traditional splashy red carpet arrivals line will be truncated, the portions of the arrivals press line that existed last year on Hollywood Boulevard will be eliminated and guests arriving by limousine will exit their cars on Hollywood Boulevard and enter the Kodak Theatre directly through the arrivals arch.

In all the years that U.S. Armed Forces were fighting in Vietnam, and when hundreds of soldiers were dying every week, the Academy never curtailed any part of its annual Oscar ceremonies because of it. Now we have a war in that the U.S. will almost certainly prevail, and in which there will probably be only a small number of U.S. casualties. Yet the Academy gets all somber on us.

In Hollywood, if you can fake sincerity, you’ve got it made!

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/2 "2003-03-21T22:32:46Z")

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Well, there is also the issue of providing adequate security for a very high-profile event (which some might say epitomizes our evil Infidel culture).

It’s a “risk of terrorism” thing more than a “we’re at war” thing, as silly as that may sound.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/3 "2003-03-21T23:41:13Z")

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The Academy’s announcement mentions nothing about risk of terrorism. It does say,

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> The Academy is mindful that many of its celebrity guests would feel uncomfortable arriving at this year’s Awards at the beginning of a major war to face a business-as-usual phalanx of interviewers and photographers. The Academy’s decision is meant to address the concerns of these celebrities, and to reflect the circumstances under which we are now producing this show.
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> Therefore arriving guests will not stop for interviews or photographs.

So, they are not eliminating the red carpet arrivals line, they’re just taking the fun out of it. PR, PR, PR.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/4 "2003-03-21T23:56:11Z")

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Is this the beginning of a “major war”? I didn’t get that memo. I think, in times of minor war, people should be able to distract themselves by watching movie stars wearing bizarre designer clothes be accosted by Joan Rivers. It’s amusing and diverting in such troubled times, no?

But seriously, I really do enjoy the Oscars for its voyeuristic escapism. I’m a big movie buff and I’ve seen almost everything that’s nominated this year, so I was looking forward to the Oscars. I’m kinda bummed that it’s going to be curtailed b/c Hollywood needs to feel it’s being properly sober and faintly disapproving of our police action in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/5 "2003-03-22T00:37:22Z")

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My theory, and others with which I’ve discussed this subject agree, is that the Academy is mostly afraid that the red carpet could be turned into a huge anti-war protest either by the performers themselves, or by the crowds who gather around the red carpet. The Academy does not want the pre-show turned into a giant ugly scene of screaming activists battling police, or an endless series of interviews in which celebrities tell Joan Rivers why they dislike the President and his actions.

Of course the Academy wants to put the most positive and patriotic spin on its actions, hence the rhetoric about the world situation.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/6 "2003-03-22T03:06:25Z")

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I think I read somewhere that during WWII, formal wear was banned.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/7 "2003-03-22T03:13:41Z")

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Darn it… **Eve** ’s gone home for the weekend…

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/8 "2003-03-22T03:46:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> \*\*Darn it… **Eve** ’s gone home for the weekend… \*\*

I think she posted in another thread I just read that she’s got a computer at home now.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/9 "2003-03-22T04:10:36Z")

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Well, then: Woohoo! If anyone can enlighten us, she can!

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/10 "2003-03-22T04:28:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SpoilerVirgin \*  
> \*\*My theory, and others with which I’ve discussed this subject agree, is that the Academy is mostly afraid that the red carpet could be turned into a huge anti-war protest either by the performers themselves, or by the crowds who gather around the red carpet. The Academy does not want the pre-show turned into a giant ugly scene of screaming activists battling police, or an endless series of interviews in which celebrities tell Joan Rivers why they dislike the President and his actions.
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> Of course the Academy wants to put the most positive and patriotic spin on its actions, hence the rhetoric about the world situation. \*\*

Yeah, that would turn the Oscars from a four-hour show into an eight-hour show. Or maybe even longer. I can see it now…

“We’re here on our coverage of day three of Conflict: Oscars. In a few minutes the 50th has-been celebrity will condemn the US action in Iraq. No word yet as to when we’ll get to the Best Picture award and this’ll all be over.”

Anyone want to spin it out further?

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**Author:** ![Kallessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kallessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kallessa)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/11 "2003-03-22T08:08:14Z")

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I think the fact that we have minute-by-minute coverage of this war makes a difference. In Vietnam, there was some coverage directly from the front lines, but it was generally restricted to the newshour. Now, one could channel surf between the Oscars and bombs dropping live on the heads of all those Iraqi movie fans. Not a very tasteful image, and certainly not a way to get advertisers to sign on for big bucks.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscars-red-carpet-during-war/163228/12 "2003-03-22T08:19:34Z")

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They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. If they have a Red Carpet they’d get accused of being frivolous. If they cut out the Red Carpet they get accused of being pretentious.

If they beef up security they get accused of being worried about nothing. If they don’t, and something happens, there would be hell to pay.

If they speak out (pro or con) about the war, people ask who cares what they think? If they say nothing, they get accused of not caring and living their own trivial little lives without a thought about what’s happening in the world.

If they go they’re accused of this, if they stay home they’re accused of that.

There’s no correct way to handle this, though to some people (have you read the Yahoo Message Boards?) a nuke on Hollywood on Sunday would be about right.

My take is that they should postpone the Oscars, if only so I won’t have to miss any of it for “Updates” and “Breaking News” interrupting a show that will NOT be repeated.
