# Oslo dopers, check in please. Is everyone safe? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 22, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984 "2011-07-22T14:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/61 "2011-07-22T20:56:36Z")
Hmmm…the shooter at the youth camp has been confirmed to be a Norwegian. Maybe the whole thing was some kind of Tim McVeigh style nuttery? And the Global Jihad folks falsely claiming credit? Strange… ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/62 "2011-07-22T20:58:08Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Hmmm…the shooter at the youth camp has been confirmed to be a Norwegian. Maybe the whole thing was some kind of Tim McVeigh style nuttery? And the Global Jihad folks falsely claiming credit? Strange… Just because the man Norwegian doesn’t mean he couldn’t be Muslim-look at Jihad Jane over here for example. ---
**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/63 "2011-07-22T21:00:37Z")
From what I understand from speaking with a local Norway expert, the police seem to think this might have been homegrown terrorism from extreme right-wing factions. And if it is, it wouldn’t be the first time Muslim terrorist groups have taken responsibility for attacks they had nothing to do with. But again, it’s too soon to tell for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/64 "2011-07-22T21:28:59Z")
The arrested man is a norwegian citizen, ethnically norwegian, 32 years old. The confirmed number of deaths is 17 total, but it may rise in the coming hours. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/65 "2011-07-22T21:35:53Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Just because the man Norwegian doesn’t mean he couldn’t be Muslim-look at Jihad Jane over here for example. A cowardly asshole of whatever stripe is still a cowardly asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/66 "2011-07-22T21:59:22Z")
They are searching for the missing children with dogs in the dark, because some of them may lay dead in the woods, or drowned while attempting to flee. These are children as young as 13. It’s too horrible for words. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/67 "2011-07-22T22:01:03Z")
> [@Septima](#): > > They are searching for the missing children with dogs in the dark, because some of them may lay dead in the woods, or drowned while attempting to flee. These are children as young as 13. It’s too horrible for words. Mein Gott… This is like Columbine and Oklahoma City on the same day. ---
**Author:** ![malm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@malm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/68 "2011-07-22T22:15:25Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Mein Gott… This is like Columbine and Oklahoma City on the same day. appropriate comparisons. I feel so sad for those who have lost loved ones today. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/69 "2011-07-22T22:27:51Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > A cowardly asshole of whatever stripe is still a cowardly asshole. You called it. Perhaps it’s a crazy person. At least the Muslim guy who shot two soldiers at a recruiting station here in Little Rock had some logic to his crime; angry at America’s military involvement in the Mid East, kill soldiers you can find. That bastard, by the way, has been found by shrinks to have “delusions of grandeur”. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/70 "2011-07-22T22:49:44Z")
> [@Septima](#): > > They are searching for the missing children with dogs in the dark, because some of them may lay dead in the woods, or drowned while attempting to flee. These are children as young as 13. It’s too horrible for words. I can’t imagine what the parents of those missing kids must be going through…hope all unaccounted for people are found alive. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/71 "2011-07-22T22:57:03Z")
> [@SanibelMan](#): > > From what I understand from speaking with a local Norway expert, the police seem to think this might have been homegrown terrorism from extreme right-wing factions. The shooting at the youth camp suggests this as well. I can see Al Qaeda setting off cars bombs in the capital, but targeting the young members of a specific political party suggests someone with an agenda more specific than just punishing Norway. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/72 "2011-07-22T23:26:08Z")
[http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254](http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254) The suspects’ FB page. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/73 "2011-07-23T00:30:56Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > targeting the young members of a specific political party Was it a camp for a particular party? Killing children is horrible, but all the more odious for the political affiliation of their parents. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/74 "2011-07-23T00:34:37Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Was it a camp for a particular party? Yes, for the Labor Party. And the killer appears to have been a right-wing extremist. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/75 "2011-07-23T00:45:36Z")
I’m amazed at the information you guys are coming with, I’m traveling right now and the local news just mentioned, after the international terrorism angle was found to be very unlikely by 3 or 4 hours, that this has all the fingerprints of an Al-Qaeda attack :smack: Sheesh! It is like if the internet does not exist here in Central America, and it is. 🙂 Although the connection I have now is spotty. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/76 "2011-07-23T02:16:55Z")
cnn just reported that police in norway are saying the numbers of dead could take a large leap upward. there are 17 confirmed, but police are reporting that it could climb to 80. gut gott. a man who was on the island said the gunman started shooting where the boat landed. also that the water temp. is very cold, anyone trying to swim away could be in trouble very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/77 "2011-07-23T03:00:14Z")
[CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/22/norway.explosion/index.html?iref=BN1&hpt=hp_t1) puts the current death toll at 87 - 80 on the island, 7 in the bombing. Christ jesus. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/78 "2011-07-23T03:24:41Z")
Damn. ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/79 "2011-07-23T04:07:12Z")
I’ve been following it all day. Thanks for the updates. So sorry…☹ ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984/80 "2011-07-23T04:26:24Z")
I’ve been trying to find mention of this on TV just now, because it’s the first time I’ve heard of it. Can’t find a thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oslo-dopers-check-in-please-is-everyone-safe/589984.md?page=5)