other meanings of 'fag' in UK slang

And yet, we still have Coon Cheese :smiley:

(Yes, I know it was the founder’s name, but still …)

I think it was Lewis who recorded that he was made to stand with his ear just slightly away from a door jam, then clipped on the side of the head so that his head hit the door jam and his ear was pinched – a procedure he described as sounding harmless.

He also recorded that WWI was not a fate he would have wished on them, but wasn’t as bad as school Most if not all his bullies died there. He himself was lucky enough to be injured.

A faggot is also what is now called a bouquet garni. Curse those damn right-wing hompphobics for stealing a good English word from us…

:confused: “Chupachup stick”?

A faggot of some or other twiggy herbs is in the generally accepted etymology of faggot the meat concoction. Whatever its components in English cooking, one of the standard herb bundles in French cooking (basically thyme, basil, parsley) is known as bouquet garnie in every kitchen with the classical French method.

Would Jamie Oliver suggest on YouTube we put a faggot of herbs in a stew?

A quite popular brand of lollipop

I doubt it. Faggot in that sense suggests definite woodiness, as in bundles of twigs used for brooms or as kindling for fires (both of which suggest an association with witches, which in turn links to the use of the word for a disagreeable old woman).

Pre-cigarattes, didn’t “fag” and “faggot” refer to the coals in a fireplace? The younger boys would have had to tend to those. (And get boned in the ass. Hey, this is English public school we’re talking about.)

Yes, one can have a faggot of herbs (maybe even in the USA? Hard to see how a misunderstanding could arise from that particular phrasing. Then again, there were users who had issues with Facebook after they asserted their fondness for faggots and peas, so maybe one would want to err on the safe side.)

Trust me when I say there were no “faggot of herbs” in West Texas.

:confused: That’s the same use.

Maybe whiny bitch isn’t close enough but more like annoying…

Never. Ever.

No-one, including chefs and cooks, would ever know the word outside it’s normal pejorative meaning, let alone its etymology (except for us, smarties all) and could even hazard a guess that something related to a food product was being referred to.

Word to the wise, Jamie Oliver.

As others have said, they are what Americans call SpaghettiOs. And they are responsible for the immortal introductory lines by Gene Hunt in Life on Mars:

Just with the boy looking a candy in the market, and he asked me what “FADS” are. He’s not even really familiar with smoking, much less candy cigarettes, so I explained that concept to him. I didn’t even try to explain why they are called “FADS”, and he didn’t even think it needed any more explanation than “Pepsi”.

At least they didn’t change the name to TABS :slight_smile:

Would you mind me asking how old you are and where in Australia you’re from? Only because I’m late 20s from Sydney and have only heard the American usage. Assuming it might be generational and/or regional.

Dont tell anyone but late 50s, Sydney. I mainly know older smokers - smoking is pretty rare among younger people I know. There might be a communication / social gap between the old smokers, who sometimes say they feel like criminal pariahs and you youngsters.

Not regional, but also perhaps slightly working-class, and probably not only because the upper classes smoked less and quit smoking sooner.

Things have changed quite a lot since they have restricted smoking and banned it in most public places. You don’t really encounter smokers in the normal course of things the way you used to before they had to scurry off and hide in doorways, so you don’t really hear them asking for their “pack of fags” or the like the way we used to when they were “mainstream”.

I guess it’s true, I’m not a smoker and it is pretty easy to avoid being around smoking these days. Of my friends that smoke, if they were to use a slang term they’d be more likely to say durries.

Being brought up on 90s and 2000s American tv has probably made the anti-gay definition the primary one amongst my generation. Enough so that I feel uncomfortable using the word, even in obviously non-homophobic contexts.