# Ottawa Dopers, how are you doing?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 5, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960 "2022-02-05T14:33:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/101 "2022-02-11T20:52:00Z")

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Doug Ford may have declared an emergency, FINALLY, but he hasn’t actually acted in any way. My guess is that he’ll stall any real actions as long as he possibly can.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/102 "2022-02-12T01:25:34Z")

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The Ontario government petitioned a court for an injunction to stop donations. They should do more, but that’s not nothing.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/103 "2022-02-12T01:27:15Z")

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they should have started arresting and towing on day one.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/104 "2022-02-12T08:03:57Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> they should have started arresting and towing on day one. &nbsp;

The mayor of Inglewood, California has threatened to do exactly that if truckers start disrupting the Super Bowl this weekend.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/105 "2022-02-12T18:02:09Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> The mayor of Inglewood, California has threatened to do exactly that if truckers start disrupting the Super Bowl this weekend.

The city’s police force will be busy trying to stop the fans from lynching anybody who stands between them and the stadium.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/106 "2022-02-12T18:09:25Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The city’s police force will be busy trying to stop the fans from lynching anybody who stands between them and the stadium.

Someone who paid $10,000 for a once in a lifetime chance isn’t going to be stopped by a trucker protest. They couldn’t be stopped by the Marine Corps.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/107 "2022-02-13T14:25:43Z")

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On the Sunday morning news they said the police were moving in to break it up. Can’t find any cites yet.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/108 "2022-02-13T14:30:59Z")

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[This article dated 12-feb](https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-police-form-new-command-centre-with-rcmp-opp-to-respond-to-downtown-protest-1.5778679) said they were waiting for reinforcements before they enacted their plan for ending it.

Earlier in the day, police said they were waiting for reinforcements to arrive to implement their “plan to end this unlawful occupation.”

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/109 "2022-02-13T14:38:35Z")

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> **[Canada Protests: Canada Protests: Police Say Blockaded Canadian Bridge Will...](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/13/world/canada-protests-trudeau-news)**
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> The police said the Ambassador Bridge would need to be plowed before it could reopen. Earlier, officers arrested protesters and towed vehicles that had blocked the vital commercial crossing between Canada and the U.S.

> The Canadian police in Windsor, Ontario, began making arrests on Sunday morning near the Ambassador Bridge, a vital border crossing to the United States and one of the most visible sites of an anti-government protest movement that has roiled Canada for weeks.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/110 "2022-02-13T14:40:01Z")

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[https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/13/americas/canada-truckers-protests-covid-sunday/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/13/americas/canada-truckers-protests-covid-sunday/index.html)

> Arrests have been made after a key border crossing between the US and Canada has been impeded by protesters

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/111 "2022-02-13T14:41:38Z")

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> **[U.S.-Canada border crossing reopens after six-day blockade by ‘Freedom...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/13/canada-freedom-convoy-border-blockades-truckers/)**
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> Detroit International Bridge Co. said in a statement that “the Ambassador Bridge is now fully open allowing the free flow of commerce between the Canada and US economies once again."

> The Canadian police in Windsor, Ontario, began making arrests on Sunday morning near the Ambassador Bridge, a vital border crossing to the United States and one of the most visible sites of an anti-government protest movement that has roiled Canada for weeks.

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**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/112 "2022-02-14T04:02:09Z")

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While I agree with Trudeau that sending in troops to break up the trucker blockades is not a good idea, I think that the military could be called on to provide support services. The military has heavy wreckers that can be used to tow trucks away. For the ones which have been deliberately disabled, [tank transporters like this one](https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/lord-strathcona-s-horse-royal-canadians) would work just as well for hauling trucks as they do for broken down tanks.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/113 "2022-02-14T04:59:04Z")

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I agree they should use military equipment to move the trucks if the towing companies won’t get involved. but there’s a trailer designed for loading stuff like bulldozers. I watched a guy load a bulldozer by himself on a [low boy trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZnxH2oU2U),. The trailer drops down to form a ramp and the semi pulls away with the front of the trailer attached.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/114 "2022-02-14T05:42:33Z")

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[this news video shows all the different blockades involved.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OtVRmOHg3w)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/115 "2022-02-15T22:02:56Z")

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Ottawa Police Chief resigns:

> **[Peter Sloly resigns as Ottawa's police chief, says force now 'better...](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6352295)**
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> Peter Sloly has resigned as Ottawa's police chief and will publicly announce his resignation after the Ottawa Police Services Board meeting today, sources tell CBC News.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/116 "2022-02-15T22:34:57Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> This isn’t a logistics problem, It’s a PM hiding in the basement problem.

Interestingly, many on Canada’s right-wing were saying this very thing back when you posted this on Feb 10. Of course, now on Feb 15 they are saying that he’s a strong-man dictator.

He’s like Shrodinger’s prime minister. He’s a desert topping AND a floor polish. He’s whatever boogeyman you want him to be!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/117 "2022-02-15T22:47:55Z")

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Hmmmm Looks like a [cafe in Ottawa](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/threats-close-stella-luna-gelato-cafe-after-owners-name-appears-in-givesendgo-data-leak) has closed (temporarily one hopes)

after it was revealed that the owner donated money to the Convoy cause that was pissing off all of Ottawa.

In the article, first she has a point:

> "Never in our wildest dreams did we anticipate what has transpired over the past couple of weeks,” she said. “None of us anticipated what it turned into and we certainly don’t condone it. …  
> We made a mistake. Who could have anticipated it?”

Sure… who could possibly have anticipated it? Right?

> Giuliani made her Feb. 5 donation on the second weekend of the demonstration, when Ottawa police were **describing it as “volatile and dangerous”** and lawyers were seeking **a court injunction to silence** the constant blaring of air horns in the downtown core.

Oh. I guess that comment of hers was bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/118 "2022-02-15T22:49:16Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Oh. I guess that comment of hers was bullshit.

I’m shocked…shocked I tell you!

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/119 "2022-02-15T22:52:25Z")

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I was just commenting on that to my wife. It doesn’t matter what he does, or doesn’t do…

I have a headache…its Trudeau’s fault. Oops, we are out of milk, damn that Trudeau!

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottawa-dopers-how-are-you-doing/958960/120 "2022-02-15T23:24:48Z")

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> [@Latimera](#):
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> I have a headache…its Trudeau’s fault. Oops, we are out of milk, damn that Trudeau!

Echos of “[Thanks Obama](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama)” from last decade.

I was just informed of the [Battle of Billings Bridge](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/battle-of-billings-bridge-attracts-hundreds-of-volunteers-traps-convoy-for-hours) which seems to have been a very effective counterprotest.

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