# Ottto teaches Abortion Ethics 101 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2002, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306 "2002-05-29T05:44:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/1 "2002-05-29T05:44:25Z")
Further to his thrilling insight into the Northern Ireland situation, **Ottto** is now hijacking threads with his doubtless equally well-informed views on abortion. In [**this**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117436) thread on pro-life terrorism tactics (webcams outside abortion clinics etc) he first tries to hijack the thread into an abortion debate, which it clearly isn’t: > [@](#): > > **It seems supremely hypocritical to condemn rude but legal behavior around abortion clinics, but not the abortions themselves.** and later gives us this gem: > [@](#): > > **Pro-choice, my ass, some of you people are just ‘pro-abortion’. You forget about the other choices available.** And in [**this**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117516) thread on the US’s execution of a minor, he gets back onto his little hijack soapbox again: > [@](#): > > **Amazing that people cry and moan over the fates of 17 year old murderers and rapists, but rabidly defend abortion. Isn’t a life a life?** I don’t know whether **Ottto** is just very, very stupid, or being deliberately offensive. ---
**Author:** ![LolaBaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@LolaBaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaBaby)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/2 "2002-05-29T07:03:09Z")
A little of column A, a little of column B. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/3 "2002-05-29T07:07:24Z")
So much potential for such a newbie! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/4 "2002-05-29T07:07:38Z")
_shakes fist at **LolaBaby** _ [wail] That was going to be _my_ line! [/wail] ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/5 "2002-05-29T07:31:01Z")
I was arguing with him about human rights (I’m for; he’s against), so I’m happy to see him thrown into the Pit. Fry sucker fry! ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/6 "2002-05-29T10:46:58Z")
Is this going to be another fucking jackass that gets 50 pit threads started about him, before he wanders off to annoy another board? Guy’s got 24 posts, pretty much all are in GD, all are inflammitory, none are intelligent or well thought out. He wants attention, nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/7 "2002-05-29T10:56:28Z")
At least the shit stain is not claiming to be pro life > [@](#): > > (To an degree, I am playing Devil’s Advocate here. I don’t have strong feeling about abortion, in general). [standard philosophical disclaimer] "we’re not all like that 😉 [/standard disclaimer] …so he’s what…pro jerk? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/8 "2002-05-29T11:06:15Z")
He’s also a coward - he came back the next day, but chickened out of addressing his bitch-slapping in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/9 "2002-05-29T11:07:14Z")
Hmmm, how do I get a pit thread named for me? Looks like the entrance standards are pretty low. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/10 "2002-05-29T11:19:18Z")
OK, some more gems, just to show the sheer quality of this poster: [**Assuming India and Pakistan light each other up, what are the real world effects?**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117149) > [@](#): > > \*\*Want the very un-politically correct answer? : > > There would be a lot less Indians and Pakistanis in the world.\*\* > [@](#): > > **Pakistan is a dictatorship. A muslim dictatorship. (Wow, an islamic nation without democracy, who would have guessed?)** [**objecting to mass transit subsidization**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117203) > [@](#): > > **As for ‘helping the poor’, to them my advice is simple: ‘Get a better job’. Don’t ask for more of my tax money. Not to be cruel, but the tax situation is really out of control here.** [\*\*FBI tries to ban the Daniel Pearl video \*\*](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117535) > [@](#): > > \*\*No offense, but… > > 1. His killers WERE religeous. That is the problem: Fundemental Islam is at odds with pretty much every value we hold dear. > > 2. If it takes watching some poor innocent guy getting his head cut off to get a tregedy accross, then may I recommend laying off the violence for a while? You seem a bit desensitized. \*\* [\*\*Dick Armey: weeping pustule or merely a creep? The “Mychal Judge case” \*\*](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117301) > [@](#): > > **So, let me see here. Dick Armey does not want to give our money to the gay lover of some fellow. And the problem with that is…?** [\*\*If humans achieve a Utopian society, will they know it? \*\*](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116888) > [@](#): > > **Having said that, I will re-re-re-echo the sentiment: Utopia is in the eye of the beholder. My veiw of a perfect world involves large-scale glorious battles, winged monkeys, and the proclomation of ME as Emperor of One and All. I bet your view of a perfect world differs.** Yes, **ottto** , I rather think that it does… ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/11 "2002-05-29T11:28:21Z")
Let us not forget the [marvellous](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=116898): > [@](#): > > As to whether the moral effects of testing would be mitigated if conducted on a foreign populace: To me, it depends on what country we are talking about, specifically. To test chemical weapons secretly in Canada woudl be unacceptable. They are a close ally, and ‘kindred civilization’. To test said weapons in Somalia, sure. Go for it. They dance around with our dead and burn American flags, I have no love for them. I suspect each person would have their own list of acceptable and unacceptable nations. > > Life without chance of parole prisoners should be given the option of participating in tests, with various incentives. Death row prisoners should be put to death, since they are on death row. What a turdeating, racist, cowardly prick. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/12 "2002-05-29T12:19:01Z")
oh my god. what a stupid fuckwit. i tell you goat felcher is too nice an epithet for some people ---
**Author:** ![Nenya\_Elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea5d25/32.png) [@Nenya\_Elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nenya_Elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/13 "2002-05-29T12:44:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Want the very un-politically correct answer? : > > There would be a lot less Indians and Pakistanis in the world. Dude, that is not just un-politically correct, that is bloody **hateful**. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/14 "2002-05-29T15:34:34Z")
Well, the numbers of Indians and Pakistanis _would_ be reduced. I rather doubt they would be decimated, though. If the guy can’t even state his facts accurately (it’s “fewer”, not “less”, you semigrammatical twit), why are you bothering to challenge his opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Big\_Kahuna\_Burger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Big\_Kahuna\_Burger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Kahuna_Burger)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/15 "2002-05-29T18:17:02Z")
I didn’t know Fred Phelps had access to a computer. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/16 "2002-05-29T20:42:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > Hmmm, how do I get a pit thread named for me? Looks like the entrance standards are pretty low. Right now, it seems like the fastest way is to tell **Cartooniverse** you let your kids ride in your car unbelted. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/17 "2002-05-29T21:34:26Z")
I would like to submit these gems, from [Did Anyone Celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the Universal Declar.'n of Human Rights?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116843) > [@](#): > > Want a better job? Get better skills. Want to purchase product A? Purchase it. Don’t have enough money? Get a better job. Have money, want to make more? Hire people to work for you. Et cetera. > \ > I worked hard throughout college and my early career days to get to a good position. If someone else does not want to work hard, or does not have the gumption to work hard, or is not bright enough to realize that they must work hard, screw em. Let them starve. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/18 "2002-05-29T22:21:56Z")
Some days, you’d like to be able to fight ignorance in some more visceral way – like with a tire-iron. ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/19 "2002-05-29T22:37:30Z")
No, **Larry** - the appropriate visceral means of fighting ignorance is with the “Clue-By-Four” (patent pending). Sign up today and for the low low price of…oh, hell, what’s a 2x4 going by these days (wood, not cars, ninnies)…$4.50 US we’ll send you your own with convenient patent leather handgrip. Or not. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2002, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306/20 "2002-05-29T23:20:32Z")
I’ve reported the jackass twice. I think he’s SERIOUSLY walking the line between provacative and trolling. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ottto-teaches-abortion-ethics-101/111306.md?page=2)