# Otzi the Gay Caveman **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [March 19, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392 "2013-03-19T19:51:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/21 "2023-08-17T20:09:45Z")
No, those are the _chinless_ chaps. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/22 "2023-08-17T20:19:43Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yeah, I can see why people might think he was gay: Let’s not make jokes about gay stereotypes in this forum, please. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/23 "2023-08-17T23:01:07Z")
As near as I can tell from the article, the picture is from an older reconstruction no longer thought to be accurate. ---
**Author:** ![FeRDNYC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ferdnyc/32/14000_2.png) [@FeRDNYC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FeRDNYC)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/24 "2023-09-02T10:20:55Z")
> [@Briny\_Deep](#): > > All chaps are assless by definition. THANK YOU! It’s like saying “toeless sandals”, or “sleeveless tank top”. Fingernails on a chalkboard. (Which can either be green or black, unless it’s a blackboard, duh.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/25 "2023-09-02T10:39:21Z")
> [@FeRDNYC](#): > > THANK YOU! It’s like saying “toeless sandals”, or “sleeveless tank top”. Just you watch. I’m going to invent the first assful chap and turn the world of fashion on its goddamn head. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/26 "2023-09-02T10:50:57Z")
Is that how you wear them? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/27 "2023-09-02T20:33:35Z")
A thought about the precise dating of the body. > **[Ötzi | Tools and equipment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi#Tools_and_equipment)** > > Other items found with the Iceman were a copper axe with a yew handle, a chert-bladed knife with an ash handle and a quiver of 14 arrows with viburnum and dogwood shafts. Two of the arrows, which were broken, were tipped with flint and had fletching (stabilizing fins), while the other 12 were unfinished and untipped. The arrows were found in a quiver with what is presumed to be a bow string, an unidentified tool, and an antler tool which might have been used for sharpening arrow points.\[5 Wooden artifacts can often be dated to an exact year through [Dendrochronology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology). Study of that yew axe handle might give a precise date. ---
**Author:** ![Guapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@Guapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guapo)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/28 "2023-09-03T09:11:02Z")
I remember during the first push to metric in the US there was a tendency to be over precise. For example, the distance on a baseball park wall might read “379’ (115.59 m)”. But of course the foot measurement was never that precise to begin with. I think this led to people thinking that the metric system was too complicated for them. I see this a lot in the news. A ballpark figure (no pun intended) in one measurement is converted to an overly precise figure. For example, “Experts estimate its value as one million Euros (1.08 million dollars)”. It drives me nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392/29 "2023-09-03T11:10:53Z")
> [@Guapo](#): > > For example, “Experts estimate its value as one million Euros (1.08 million dollars)”. It drives me nuts. Particularly since the number in parens can be different tomorrow! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/otzi-the-gay-caveman/653392.md?page=1)