# Ouija Boards - I used to think it was bull until...... **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 19, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528 "2009-02-19T09:46:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/201 "2009-02-20T03:08:50Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Now wait a minute; only few hours ago you said:But if everything happens at the same time in the spirit world, the numbers have always been drawn, and the spirits have always known what they are. > > Congratulations **lekatt** , on running the longest, most successful whoosh in SDMB history! My hat is off to you Sir! I don’t think you grasp the full significance of this. This isn’t the longest woosh in SDMB history-this is actually the first and _only_ case of an SDMB member successfully wooshing _himself_. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/202 "2009-02-20T03:50:14Z")
> [@Snnipe\_70E](#): > > HUH Thanks so much for the informative reply. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/203 "2009-02-20T04:03:42Z")
Who here owned, or still owns, a Nintendo 64? If so, did you ever own/play Banjo Kazooie? (The original one I mean). If not you missed out - not only was it a great game, but it also has the answer to this riddle. On the graveyard level, there is a giant Ouji board, with a Cate Blanchett big enough to sit on. Cate moves around the board, spelling out certain things, at the end of which something good happens. You win a prize, or something. This PROVES several things: 1)The boards ARE fueled by magic. You never even _touch_ Cate Blanchett, only the controller, but it moves… BY ITSELF! 2) This leads to physical effects - the board shows you how to get the prize! 3) Mst crucially, it is reproducible. I played that game a thousand times, and every single time the results were the same. They call that science, bitch, it just got served to you. So… Gruntilda is Satan… and Banjo and Kazooie together form the Holy Trinity, minus one… it fits! ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/204 "2009-02-20T04:29:11Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > I want to make sure I understand. > > There is no past, future, time, and space and no calendar, but there they do have the lottery? No lottery. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/205 "2009-02-20T04:30:58Z")
How do they decide who to throw rocks at? ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/206 "2009-02-20T04:33:49Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > So they _can_ report to us what tomorrow’s lotto numbers are, then? No lottery in the spirit world. ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/207 "2009-02-20T04:35:14Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Okay, is there anything _factual_ that interests them that could also interest us? I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/208 "2009-02-20T04:36:36Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Now wait a minute; only few hours ago you said:But if everything happens at the same time in the spirit world, the numbers have always been drawn, and the spirits have always known what they are. > > Congratulations **lekatt** , on running the longest, most successful whoosh in SDMB history! My hat is off to you Sir! No lottery in the spirit world my friend. ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/209 "2009-02-20T04:37:52Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > How do you know? > > How do you know? Been there. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/210 "2009-02-20T04:39:06Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > No lottery. And how about pie? They’ve gotta have pie, right? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/211 "2009-02-20T04:40:31Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > And how about pie? They’ve gotta have pie, right? Do they get to see Pixar films, or just Dreamworks? How do they feel about Wall-E in the spirit world? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/212 "2009-02-20T04:40:57Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Been there. So have I. There IS a lottery. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/213 "2009-02-20T04:45:17Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Been there. In your dreams. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/214 "2009-02-20T04:46:54Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > No lottery in the spirit world my friend. But they know all sorts of things about our world with which to beguile the unwary. And the lotto would be such a tempting bait for young, naive souls. Yeah, they know about the lotto; probably MySpace also. ---
**Author:** ![Fantome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Fantome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fantome)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/215 "2009-02-20T04:59:58Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > No lottery in the spirit world my friend. You’re skirting the issue, my friend, and it’s because you were caught making contradictory claims regarding the spirit world. You said: _Now even the smartest spirit will not give you the lottery numbers because the numbers are not known until drawn._ There obviously are lotteries- in this world. And you knew that’s what was being asked because you stated that spirits can’t give the lottery numbers not because lotteries don’t exist, but because the lottery a human would be interested in would be in the future and spirits can’t see the future. But…you also said: _In the spirit world events happen simultaneously. So there is no past, future, time, and space, and no calendar._ So, how about admitting that at least one of your statements are inaccurate? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/216 "2009-02-20T05:52:20Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Been there. So you’ve been there, and you learned all this… how? Somebody tell you? Some_thing?_ You experienced all of time — past, present, future — first hand? Elaborate… ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/217 "2009-02-20T06:07:33Z")
No, I get it! Our world has time all spread out, like an elephant standing on toothpaste, but the spirit world is timeless! So they can’t predict our lotto numbers, because our time is different. I GET it now! Time is just an illuuUUUuuuussion! So… does that mean if two spirits are having sex, they are ALWAYS having sex, and always have been having sex? Don’t you see, they would only need to get laid once, and then they’d be orgasming for eternity! So why would they want to leave that to nudge my finger four centimetres to the left? ---
**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/218 "2009-02-20T07:18:04Z")
> [@Fantome](#): > > You’re skirting the issue, my friend, and it’s because you were caught making contradictory claims regarding the spirit world. You said: > > _Now even the smartest spirit will not give you the lottery numbers because the numbers are not known until drawn._ > > There obviously are lotteries- in this world. And you knew that’s what was being asked because you stated that spirits can’t give the lottery numbers not because lotteries don’t exist, but because the lottery a human would be interested in would be in the future and spirits can’t see the future. > > But…you also said: > > _In the spirit world events happen simultaneously. So there is no past, future, time, and space, and no calendar._ > > So, how about admitting that at least one of your statements are inaccurate? Your logic is wackey ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/219 "2009-02-20T10:30:38Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > Your logic is wackey Actually, no, it isn’t. You obviously have the answers. We don’t. Please answer. And I second **cmyk** ’s request. I really would like to know how you know all this. You may have been there. I haven’t. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528/220 "2009-02-20T12:06:31Z")
> [@lekatt](#): > > No lottery in the spirit world. And there is no sex in the Champagne Room. Life is full of disappointments. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ouija-boards-i-used-to-think-it-was-bull-until/486528.md?page=12)