# Our campaign yard signs make NY magz.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [November 11, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720 "2012-11-11T21:22:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/1 "2012-11-11T21:22:20Z")

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A friend sent us this link; we didn’t know anyone from _New York_ magazine had taken the picture. Those are our neighbors’ houses in the background:

> **[Ohio Voters Are Sick and Tired of Deciding the Fate of the Universe](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2012/11/ohio-getting-sick-of-deciding-every-election.html)**
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> It's ridiculous.

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### Author: ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/2 "2012-11-11T21:38:29Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A friend sent us this link; we didn’t know anyone from _New York_ magazine had taken the picture. Those are our neighbors’ houses in the background:
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> [Ohio Voters Are Sick and Tired of Deciding the Fate of the Universe](http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/ohio-getting-sick-of-deciding-every-election.html)

Congratulations, but the question is…

Are \*\*you \*\* “Sick and Tired of Deciding the Fate of the Universe”? 🙂

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### Author: ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/3 "2012-11-11T21:45:01Z")

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Mow your lawn!

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/4 "2012-11-11T21:58:01Z")

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I think there should be a grass-roots operation in Ohio to get everybody to vote for the Independent candidate in 2016. It will either be awesome or break the chain, or both.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/5 "2012-11-11T22:42:47Z")

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I have relatives who live in New Hampshire and they matter-of-factly talk about their personal encounters with pretty much every person who’s run for President in the last twenty years. They seem almost surprised when we point out that most people in the country haven’t had a chance to have a few words with Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and George Bush - like they feel meeting the candidate is just a routine part of the election process.

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### Author: ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/6 "2012-11-11T22:58:54Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I have relatives who live in New Hampshire and they matter-of-factly talk about their personal encounters with pretty much every person who’s run for President in the last twenty years. They seem almost surprised when we point out that most people in the country haven’t had a chance to have a few words with Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and George Bush - like they feel meeting the candidate is just a routine part of the election process.

The only political person I’ve met in my life is my city councilman, and that’s only because he lived at the end of the block. That’s as a resident of California, Minnesota and then California again.

A lady I know was chased around a couch once by Arnold Schwarzennegger, but that was back in his pre-Conan days, so I don’t think it counts.

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### Author: ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/7 "2012-11-11T23:50:27Z")

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I met Democratic candidate for president Alan Cranston, in 1979. He promptly got annihilated in New Hampshire and dropped out. Later, he was one of the Keating Five.

So, I’ve not only shaken hands with a presidential candidate, but a crooked one! Coo!

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### Author: ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/8 "2012-11-12T00:56:12Z")

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What kind of charmed 2012 are you having? 5+ seconds of face time in the biggest movie of the year, now this?

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### Author: ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/9 "2012-11-12T00:57:48Z")

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Sort of amusing that, for all the stories about the importance or unimportance or self-inflated importance of Ohio, it was Colorado that put Obama over the top this cycle. Ohio added more votes to the final count but losing the state wouldn’t have mattered at all.

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### Author: ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/10 "2012-11-12T01:38:21Z")

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I’m impressed that you matter 1,000 times more than other Americans. No wonder they used your lawn signs for the picture.🙂

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/11 "2012-11-12T02:06:41Z")

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Have you taken down the signs yet?

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/12 "2012-11-12T03:18:58Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Congratulations, but the question is…
> 
> Are \*\*you \*\* “Sick and Tired of Deciding the Fate of the Universe”? 🙂

Nah, we’re good.

> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> What kind of charmed 2012 are you having? 5+ seconds of face time in the biggest movie of the year, now this?

I know! Freaky. Now 2013 is sure to suck.

> [@dropzone](#):
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> Have you taken down the signs yet?

Yes, just within a day or two of Election Day.

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/13 "2012-11-12T03:52:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Yes, just within a day or two of Election Day.

Had to bask in the glow of ruling the universe just a little while longer, eh?

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2012, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/14 "2012-11-12T09:16:44Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> What kind of charmed 2012 are you having? 5+ seconds of face time in the biggest movie of the year, now this?

Well, he\* is \*someone who matters 1000 times more than the rest of us…

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/15 "2012-11-13T17:03:06Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Well, he\* is \*someone who matters 1000 times more than the rest of us…

_You_ said it. Not me.

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### Author: ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/16 "2012-11-13T18:09:58Z")

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I can’t believe it. An Obama sign. Out here in California, our support for the blue team was taken for granted. Very few signs and none at all on those street corners where all the other signs appeared. We only had a small handful of those presidential campaign ads on TV. I feel unappreciated now.

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### Author: ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/17 "2012-11-13T19:37:49Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Sort of amusing that, for all the stories about the importance or unimportance or self-inflated importance of Ohio, it was Colorado that put Obama over the top this cycle. Ohio added more votes to the final count but losing the state wouldn’t have mattered at all.

In fact Obama could have lost Florida, Ohio and Virginia and would have still won.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/18 "2012-11-13T19:52:02Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Sort of amusing that, for all the stories about the importance or unimportance or self-inflated importance of Ohio, it was Colorado that put Obama over the top this cycle.

When you say Colorado put him over the top, you mean that’s the state that gave him 270+ electoral votes when called, right? That doesn’t make Ohio less important, it’s just sort of trivia based on what time the polls close in different states.

> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> In fact Obama could have lost Florida, Ohio and Virginia and would have still won.

If you take the states in a vacuum, yes. But that’s not really how it works. If Obama had lost those states because of something like weaker support from Latino voters or greater Republican turnout, those trends would have affected other states and Romney almost certainly would have won.

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### Author: ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/19 "2012-11-13T19:58:49Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> When you say Colorado put him over the top, you mean that’s the state that gave him 270+ electoral votes when called, right? That doesn’t make Ohio less important, it’s just sort of trivia based on what time the polls close in different states.

If you start adding states one at a time to a candidates tally by margin of victory then Colorado becomes the state that puts Obama over 270. Just another way of looking at it.

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> If you take the states in a vacuum, yes. But that’s not really how it works. If Obama had lost those states because of something like weaker support from Latino voters or greater Republican turnout, those trends would have affected other states and Romney almost certainly would have won.

Of course, that wasn’t really the point.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-campaign-yard-signs-make-ny-magz/640720/20 "2012-11-14T04:13:00Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I can’t believe it. An Obama sign. Out here in California, our support for the blue team was taken for granted. Very few signs and none at all on those street corners where all the other signs appeared…

Most signs here (like ours) were placed by individuals, not the campaign. You could (and probably still can) go to [barackobama.com](http://barackobama.com), visit the store and buy as many signs as you like.
