# Our Catholic cardinal: open mouth, insert foot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 18, 2006, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117 "2006-04-18T03:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/1 "2006-04-18T03:23:17Z")
The only thing that the three residents of the Dominican Rep. that post on this board probably have in common is this: we all loathe the cardinal. I have a long list of grievances against him, but since some are old I bring you the new ones in the list: From the April 7 news: > [@](#): > > **Cardinal: expel homosexuals** > Cardinal Nicolas Lopez Rodriguez demanded that “authority be imposed” in the Santo Domingo’s colonial zone and called for the expulsion of homosexuals because “that sort of social vice is not needed in this historical city”, as reported by Listin Diario. “There is nothing for homosexuals here. They should stay in Europe or the United States. We don’t need that social vice, we don’t need them. I understand that this country should make a show of taking them all out of here”, said the outspoken Roman Catholic Church leader. “We cannot allow this place, the historical center of Santo Domingo, to be taken over by foreign and Dominican degenerates”, added Lopez Rodriguez. From the April 12 news: > [@](#): > > **Cardinal Easter Week criticisms** > Cardinal Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez described people who party during Easter Week as “inconsequential, superficial, light, clowns, uncultured and without brains”. He criticized the artistic performances organized for Easter. Altos de Chavon and Cabarete have programmed major artistic events for Easter Saturday. > The Archbishop of Santo Domingo urged these people to become aware that with their actions they are committing sins that are becoming more and more common amongst humans. The Cardinal said that the only partying there should be is that of the celebration of the resurrection. He urged that there be a renewed awareness of what the sacrifice of Jesus Christ has meant because “there are many that do not understand, and live like animals, as they are missing two legs.” > The Cardinal accused the European nations of promoting the Muslim religion vs. Christian religions. “Christians have a great challenge before them. Not only these (Dominicans) who are making comedies, but also those who are fighting against Christianity. The Muslim world does not want to know anything about Christianity.” I am not good at this cussing thing, and the only thing that comes to my mind would get me banned if I utter them, I just have to send a healthy FUCK YOU! to our cardinal. Sorry, I needed to get that out of my chest. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/2 "2006-04-18T03:32:10Z")
Hot darned! I forgot to attribute my quotes. They were taken from [www.dr1.com](http://www.dr1.com). They archive the news every day, but I am subscribed to the archives. And no, I didn’t quote the whole thing, just a fragment of it. And one of the shows that the “inconsequential, superficial, light, clowns, uncultured and without brains” people were going to attend was Sting at concert and a Mark Anthony concert. Not that this supports or not his accusation. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/3 "2006-04-18T03:33:04Z")
Makes me wonder if our old pastor faked his death and slipped off to Santo Domingo. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/4 "2006-04-18T03:36:22Z")
His beef is that Dominicans are not sufficiently intolerant towards homosexuals. Mind you, it is not like we are the most enlightened people, but goddammit, nothing short of torches and pitchforks would do for him. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/5 "2006-04-18T04:16:34Z")
He says there’s nothing for the homosexuals there? It makes me wonder just HOW he knows this for sure! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/6 "2006-04-18T07:18:31Z")
Not really related to your rant, but the name “Nicolas Lopez Rodriguez” rings a bell and I just can’t figure out why I would be familiar with the name of a Dominican cardinal. So, I’m wondering : Did he do something worthy of international news? Does he hold some particular office? Was he a “papabile”? Is there somebody else famous going by the same name? ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/7 "2006-04-18T08:43:54Z")
He was one of the conclave that chose the new pope in 2005. ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/8 "2006-04-18T13:59:19Z")
> [@The cardinal](#): > > “there are many that do not understand, and live like animals, as they are missing two legs.” Everybody who doesn’t celebrate Easter is missing their legs? All animals are missing two legs? People who are missing their legs live like animals? The seat of understanding is… the legs? Cardinal, please go a little easier on the waccy baccy, the rest of us might want some. ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/9 "2006-04-18T14:00:28Z")
And just how many legs is an animal supposed to have 😕 ? Why yes I do have a deadline looming, how did you guess? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/10 "2006-04-18T14:18:30Z")
> [@Nancarrow](#): > > Everybody who doesn’t celebrate Easter is missing their legs? > All animals are missing two legs? > People who are missing their legs live like animals? > The seat of understanding is… the legs? > > Cardinal, please go a little easier on the waccy baccy, the rest of us might want some. At the beginning I thought that the DR1 News people must have mistranslated his statement. I checked the news sources in Spanish and what he said makes almost as little sense in the originall Spanish (but it is easier to understand what he meant when you read it in Spanish). > [@](#): > > From [DiarioLibre.com](http://DiarioLibre.com) > A su juicio, esas son personas que "viven como los animales que le faltaron dos patas, simplemente. He needs a crash course on grammar too. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/11 "2006-04-18T14:27:49Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Did he do something worthy of international news? Does he hold some particular office? Was he a “papabile”? Is there somebody else famous going by the same name? Sorry, missed this. He’s never done anything of consequence, except, in my opinion, for sticking it to the homos and living the life of a jet-setter. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/12 "2006-04-18T16:21:52Z")
_Our Catholic Cardinal_ sounds like a wacky '50s sitcom. “Oh, Caaaardinal! You got some 'splaining to do!” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/13 "2006-04-18T16:30:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > _Our Catholic Cardinal_ sounds like a wacky '50s sitcom. > > “Oh, Caaaardinal! You got some 'splaining to do!” Ooh…I can see it now! _Our Father Conklin_, starring Gale Gordon and Eve Arden! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/14 "2006-04-18T17:28:21Z")
> [@e-logic](#): > > He was one of the conclave that chose the new pope in 2005. Wasn’t that true of every Cardinal under 80? There’s quite a flock of them funky birds, y’know. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/15 "2006-04-18T17:58:28Z")
Your Cardinal, even with his advanced and angry homophobia, is a mere piker. Here, we’ve got Father Gerald Robinson. Jury selection is currently underway for good old saintly Fr. Gerry. He stands accused of a 1980 strangling murder. And stabbing the victim at least 27 times in the neck and chest. The victim is 71 year old Sister Margaret Ann Pahl. On the day before Easter. In the sacristy of his church. Wrapped up the body in an altar cloth. Real Godly guy, the father. He’s wearing his vestments to court. What a peach. [http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060415/NEWS02/60415005](http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060415/NEWS02/60415005) [http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060418/NEWS02/304180010](http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060418/NEWS02/304180010) ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/16 "2006-04-18T19:04:10Z")
Fascinating. Mrs. Bricker can’t stand him either. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/17 "2006-04-19T04:02:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Ooh…I can see it now! _Our Father Conklin_, starring Gale Gordon and Eve Arden! I think you mean [Father Coughlin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin). Maybe? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/18 "2006-04-19T04:24:27Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Sorry, missed this. > > He’s never done anything of consequence, except, in my opinion, for sticking it to the homos and living the life of a jet-setter. Jet-setter? Extremely conservative? Without searching I guessed right away that he is from the Opus Dei. Yep, did not need to search that far: [http://en.romana.org/?s=4.2&n=35&ID=2](http://en.romana.org/?s=4.2&n=35&ID=2) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2006, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/19 "2006-04-19T11:06:36Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > I think you mean [Father Coughlin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin). Maybe? Yeah, I got a couple of consonants mixed up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2006, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117/20 "2006-05-12T13:54:43Z")
> [@UncleBeer](#): > > Here, we’ve got Father Gerald Robinson. Jury selection is currently underway for good old saintly Fr. Gerry. He stands accused of a 1980 strangling murder. And now convicted. The jury “deliberated” for all of _four_ minutes. Father Robinson spoke not a single word in court - not during the trial, nor after the verdict when the judge gave him an opportunity. What a lovely, lovely man. > **[The Blade](https://www.toledoblade.com/oldsaxolinks?query=extrefid:605120420)** And there’s more. The original investigators of the case, back in 1980, are urging the County Prosecutor to investigate further. There are accusations (and indications) of a cover up perpetrated by the cops and the diocese. > **[The Blade](https://www.toledoblade.com/oldsaxolinks?query=extrefid:605120360)** [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-catholic-cardinal-open-mouth-insert-foot/353117.md?page=2)