# Our freedom is on it's last legs. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-freedom-is-on-its-last-legs/329856 "2005-11-07T02:10:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 141
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-freedom-is-on-its-last-legs/329856/141 "2005-11-15T02:27:18Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > **Scylla** , I am indeed going to continue to post in this thread (if it interests me), and I will indeed discuss these things with people. But I will not do so with you. Ok. Thanks for telling me. > [@](#): > > Instead of talking about differing standards of proof, or epistemology, or ontology, you called me a traitor and said I hate our soldiers. I doubt I will forgive you for that, ever. I am not being hyperbolic. Fair enough. FTR, neither was I. Saying our soldiers tortured dozens to death is a very serious charge, and you stated it as a fact when you did not know it to be so. I don’t know what to call it besides traitorous slander, so a slanderous traitor is how I feel comfortal characterizing you. These are not casual accusations you make. > [@](#): > > You simply do **not** toss off rhetoric like that. That’s what I was thinking about you. > [@](#): > > and I have no desire, at all, to discuss anything with you if those are the insults you’ll sling. It’s a two way street. If you make such casual accusations I see no reason to do anything but call a spade a spade. > [@](#): > > I love my country, and want what’s best for Her, and for you to turn that into one of the most vile slanders I have ever had applied to me goes beyond all bounds. As vile slanders go, it **pales** next to the insistence that our soldiers have tortured dozens to death when you do not know it to be a fact. So, Pot. Kettle. Black. Make your own bed, and lie in it. > [@](#): > > You can feel free to respond to my cites all you wish. If someone else takes up your side of the discussion, I’ll be happy to discuss it with them. No. Debate by proxy isn’t my cup of tea. > [@](#): > > Hope that clears things up. Sure does. Thanks for telling me, so I didn’t waste my time. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-freedom-is-on-its-last-legs/329856)._