# Our little nest of vipers: Ramira. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231 "2018-01-22T18:51:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/161 "2018-01-24T20:45:53Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > That’s what the other board is for. Even you should know that. Why are you doing it here then? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/162 "2018-01-24T21:21:03Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Translation IIUIC: > Israel’s “returns” policy represents a large amount of human capital imports, through the immigration of people who have money and connections. > > And, although she doesn’t say it directly in that particular sentence, often they also have a lot of training. [Sounds](https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/canadas-immigration-policy-focus-human-capital) a lot like [Canada](https://www.wsj.com/articles/canada-unveils-new-immigrant-investor-plan-1418784959). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/163 "2018-01-25T01:07:55Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > This post from Giraffe sees our Morgenstern admitting to enjoying trolling the Dope [Moderating] If you want to attack people for things they’ve said on this board, go for it. If you want to attack people for things they’ve said on other boards, please do that on those other boards. Don’t do it here. I’ve removed the link from your post. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/164 "2018-01-25T05:20:25Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I should have expanded on this point. I have never noticed **Ramira** being particularly belligerent or condescending, and certainly never an “asshole.”\*\* In fact, in the linked thread it was her detractor(s) who annoyed with their nitpicks about a single word; and **Ramira** quickly apologized.\*\* > > One of this message board’s strengths is that dropouts can “debate” with professors. The professors are usually happy to teach or even learn. But some of the debates can be a test of one’s patience. It is easy to > > when one’s opinions are, in fact, superior 🙂 … but **Ramira** does a fair job of remaining calm and polite. My bold, and if this has been asked and answered I apologize- but could you link to where she “apologizes”? ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/165 "2018-01-25T06:52:18Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I’m astounded that I have an identifiable style. Since you’re not looking at usernames, you must have me mistaken for someone else. I’ve always thought of my posts as relatively nondescript. Your posts may as well say “cochrane” in flashing neon signs. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/166 "2018-01-25T07:24:38Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Your posts may as well say “cochrane” in flashing neon signs. Like[this one](https://s18.postimg.org/4mc1szxtl/coollogo_com-26363411.gif). ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/167 "2018-01-25T08:37:43Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > From septimus’ post: > > Ramira: > Of course for the Israel, the human capital transfer of a large component of the population with both a certain degree of the economic wealth capital and connectoins as well as the human capital and networks to well put into work the access to the investment capital networks well developed and accessible via the ethnic routes in a very time tested fashion for the case of immigration, this is a very powerful boost. > > Translation IIUIC: > Israel’s “returns” policy represents a large amount of human capital imports, through the immigration of people who have money and connections. > > And, although she doesn’t say it directly in that particular sentence, often they also have a lot of training. Thanks, **Nava**! I guess the meaning should have been obvious. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/168 "2018-01-25T11:16:01Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Your posts may as well say “cochrane” in flashing neon signs. Fuck off, asshat. > [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Like[this one](https://s18.postimg.org/4mc1szxtl/coollogo_com-26363411.gif). You, too. “Cockring.” How original. Insane Gelding. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/169 "2018-01-25T13:52:31Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > From septimus’ post: > > Ramira: > Of course for the Israel, the human capital transfer of a large component of the population with both a certain degree of the economic wealth capital and connectoins as well as the human capital and networks to well put into work the access to the investment capital networks well developed and accessible via the ethnic routes in a very time tested fashion for the case of immigration, this is a very powerful boost. > > Translation IIUIC: > Israel’s “returns” policy represents a large amount of human capital imports, through the immigration of people who have money and connections. > > And, although she doesn’t say it directly in that particular sentence, often they also have a lot of training. Gracias, **Nava**. For those fluent in reading French, this is a textbook example of mentally composing the sentence in French and then substituting English equivalents word by word. Written French lends itself better to long, complex sentences with multiple levels of subordinate clauses than English does. English syntactic machinery isn’t really set up for that sort of construction the way French is. But again, while I work with a professional knowledge of French and I write pretty well in my native English, I find this the most challenging aspect of translating French to English. So if I struggle with it, think how tough it is for non-native English speakers. By contrast, when I write in French, my prose must seem awfully curt and choppy to a native French reader. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/170 "2018-01-25T14:42:34Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Gracias, **Nava**. For those fluent in reading French, this is a textbook example of mentally composing the sentence in French and then substituting English equivalents word by word. Written French lends itself better to long, complex sentences with multiple levels of subordinate clauses than English does. Which is why I understand it by filtering it through Spanish: our grammar and constructions are much more similar to French than to modern English. Translating the sentence word for word into Spanish leaves it with one redundancy and several extra articles but otherwise perfectly normal. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/171 "2018-01-25T14:43:18Z")
The French is a strange language. I thought the extra “the” she threw around was a bit annoying at first, but you get used to it. As long as she doesn’t start adding it in front of Freeway Numbers (the 101, the 405), we good! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/172 "2018-01-25T15:26:08Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Gracias, **Nava**. For those fluent in reading French, this is a textbook example of mentally composing the sentence in French and then substituting English equivalents word by word. Written French lends itself better to long, complex sentences with multiple levels of subordinate clauses than English does. English syntactic machinery isn’t really set up for that sort of construction the way French is. But again, while I work with a professional knowledge of French and I write pretty well in my native English, I find this the most challenging aspect of translating French to English. So if I struggle with it, think how tough it is for non-native English speakers. By contrast, when I write in French, my prose must seem awfully curt and choppy to a native French reader. This is the reason why nobody understands artist statements and most writing on contemporary art. International Art English largely evolved from twentieth century French philosophical writing. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/173 "2018-01-25T16:18:42Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s _Canada_ goose. Are you really Canadian or just pretending? > > Sorry to interrupt _The Morgenstern Hour_, but this is really important and needs investigating. That’s a fair call, you are right and I fucked that one up. However, I’m still as Canadian as all dressed chips and free healthcare. However, in true Canadian fashion, I’m not going to make a big deal about being Canadian. Instead, I’ll make a big deal about **NOT** being American. As for being a member for the Fab 5, no, I’m not, that one was just a joke. The closest I ever got to participating in Olympic winter sports was when I joined the “smoke a fatty for Rebagliati” movement. (Ross Rebagliati was temporarily DQ’d for a positive blood test for THC after winning gold in the 1998 winter Olympics.) I now return you to the Morgenstern hour already in progress. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/174 "2018-01-25T16:23:02Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Gracias, **Nava**. For those fluent in reading French, this is a textbook example of mentally composing the sentence in French and then substituting English equivalents word by word. Written French lends itself better to long, complex sentences with multiple levels of subordinate clauses than English does. English syntactic machinery isn’t really set up for that sort of construction the way French is. But again, while I work with a professional knowledge of French and I write pretty well in my native English, I find this the most challenging aspect of translating French to English. So if I struggle with it, think how tough it is for non-native English speakers. By contrast, when I write in French, my prose must seem awfully curt and choppy to a native French reader. Aap tu bohat sari zabanay bolti hain, yeh to kaafi asaan kaam ho ga aap kay liye! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/175 "2018-01-25T16:23:30Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > That’s a fair call, you are right and I fucked that one up. However, I’m still as Canadian as all dressed chips and free healthcare. However, in true Canadian fashion, I’m not going to make a big deal about being Canadian. Instead, I’ll make a big deal about **NOT** being American. > > As for being a member for the Fab 5, no, I’m not, that one was just a joke. The closest I ever got to participating in Olympic winter sports was when I joined the “smoke a fatty for Rebagliati” movement. (Ross Rebagliati was temporarily DQ’d for a positive blood test for THC after winning gold in the 1998 winter Olympics.) > > I now return you to the Morgenstern hour already in progress. But do you wear a toque? ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/176 "2018-01-25T17:03:13Z")
I’ve worn dozens of toques over the years, but these days I’m all about my muskrat fur hat. Even at -40 and colder it keeps my head nice and warm. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/177 "2018-01-25T17:13:01Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > But do you wear a toque? I would except mine won’t stay in place and no one has even heard of a toque wrench. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/178 "2018-01-25T17:51:17Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > I’ve worn dozens of toques over the years Sweet Jesus! Even one is over the line. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/179 "2018-01-25T17:52:36Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > I’ve worn dozens of toques over the years, but these days I’m all about my muskrat fur hat. Even at -40 and colder it keeps my head nice and warm. I have a cross-fox hat in my closet that sadly never gets worn now that I live in a warmer clime. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231/180 "2018-01-25T18:21:35Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Sweet Jesus! Even one is over the line. Toques are hats, not socks. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/our-little-nest-of-vipers-ramira/807231.md?page=10)