# Out of touch politicians

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 23, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642 "2020-10-23T00:08:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tabco](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tabco/32/7644_2.png) [@Tabco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabco)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/61 "2020-10-24T18:01:24Z")

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I’m reminded of a gag from The Simpsons where Principal Skinner is attempting to convince Superintendent Chalmers that the phrase “steamed hams” is a regional dialect from upstate New York.

Turns out Chalmers is from Utica and has never heard it, so Skinner adds that it’s confined to Albany.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/62 "2020-10-24T18:11:16Z")

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I was thinking it must be the apocryphal football team comprising half Nebraska players and half Indiana players 😉

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/63 "2020-10-24T18:35:45Z")

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Clever. Ya got me.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/64 "2020-10-24T19:02:06Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> For Wisconsin, at least a base level of knowledge about the Packers and deer hunting would be required to not come across as out of touch.

Or about how much is a 6 pack of PBR or a cream puff at the state fair.

What do you call the device you get a drink of water from?

Muddled or mix?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/65 "2020-10-24T21:12:21Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> For the Chicago area, a politician would need to know the correct answer to “do you put ketchup on a hot dog?”
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> For Wisconsin, at least a base level of knowledge about the Packers and deer hunting would be required to not come across as out of touch.

Eh, I doubt most people in Madison or Milwaukee would know much about deer hunting to know if the candidate answered correctly or not. Maybe you could ask them how to pronounce Milwaukee? Packers would definitely work.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/66 "2020-10-24T22:27:35Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> In the UK, at times it has been the price of a pint of milk (FWIW my local convenience store has single pints at £0.65, but a 4-pint flagon at £1.20).

Was it the flagon with the dragon??? Seriously, I love that movie.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/67 "2020-10-24T22:56:33Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> Eh, I doubt most people in Madison or Milwaukee would know much about deer hunting to know if the candidate answered correctly or not.

I strongly disagree. Lots of city folks go hunting. November is one of the most popular months for vacation requests and it has nothing to do with Thanksgiving.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/68 "2020-10-24T23:15:02Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> November is one of the most popular months for vacation requests and it has nothing to do with Thanksgiving.

Well … [indirectly](https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/topic/hunt/turkey) …

😉

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/69 "2020-10-24T23:46:55Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> > [@kitap](#):
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> > Eh, I doubt most people in Madison or Milwaukee would know much about deer hunting to know if the candidate answered correctly or not.
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> I strongly disagree. Lots of city folks go hunting. November is one of the most popular months for vacation requests and it has nothing to do with Thanksgiving.

I grew up in Madison and I knew no one who hunted.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/70 "2020-10-25T02:55:17Z")

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Doesn’t mean they are entirely ignorant of the concept.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/71 "2020-10-25T03:36:06Z")

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Just yesterday, Trump on global hot spots. Cant find the exact CNN clip, but something like “Israel and Sudan have been at war a long time, I don’t know if they were shooting, I don’t know about such things, but it’s been a long time”. And he wasn’t even asked, he volunteered his ignorance.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/72 "2020-10-25T03:47:47Z")

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Anywhere in the south.

Sweet or Unsweet.

Hint: There’s only one correct answer.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/73 "2020-10-25T05:30:46Z")

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The tricky one in the south-west of England us “[Jam first or cream first](https://afternoontea.co.uk/blog/the-afternoonteacouk-team/the-nation%E2%80%99s-biggest-debate-settled-%E2%80%93-jam-or-cream-first-on-scones-(1)/#:~:text=The%20rivalry%20between%20Cornwall%20and,with%2042%25%20preferring%20cream%20first.)?”

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/74 "2020-10-25T13:24:22Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Muddled or mix?

Not a phrase I’ve ever heard. Despite having done a bunch of business with the state government in Madison for several years.

Care to enlighten us poor benighted ~~non-Wisconsonites~~ err umm ~~non- Wisconsonians~~ aahh ~~non-Wisconsinarians~~ … hmmm … non-Cheeseheads; yeah that’s the ticket! Non-Cheeseheads? 😉

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/75 "2020-10-25T13:36:57Z")

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I think it has to do with making mixed drinks, but I’m a non-drinker. Muddling, as I know it, is crushing the ingredients (mint leaves, fruit) rather than stirring.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/76 "2020-10-25T13:40:03Z")

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In Rochester, you’d need to know what it means to order a plate.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/77 "2020-10-25T14:05:40Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> And he wasn’t even asked, he volunteered his ignorance.

He’s been doing that for about five years, now, ever since that escalator-ride.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/78 "2020-10-25T14:07:37Z")

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Thanks, but the thread really isn’t about politicians, but things that identify one as a true local to the area.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/79 "2020-10-25T16:24:10Z")

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In Cincinnati, ask them if they want a 3-way.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/out-of-touch-politicians/923642/80 "2020-10-25T16:40:46Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> I think it has to do with making mixed drinks, but I’m a non-drinker. Muddling, as I know it, is crushing the ingredients (mint leaves, fruit) rather than stirring.

For Wisconsin, in particular, it almost undoubtedly refers to one’s preferred way of preparing a brandy old fashioned.

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