# Outrageous Fights or Feats in Comics

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 10, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479 "2015-08-10T20:34:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/1 "2015-08-10T20:34:16Z")

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Have you ever seen a fight in a comic book that was just so outlandish, even for a comic book’s standards? One that had the victor win in such a way that it just seems impossible, even by comic book logic.

Squirrel Girl defeating Thanos does not count because that one occurred off panel, or out of comic.

These do not have to be where the victory itself was crazy, maybe just one particular feat was done by a character that it just comes off as totally outrageous.

Any examples from my fellow SD’ers??

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/2 "2015-08-10T20:43:00Z")

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I’ve pretty much given up reading comics except Fables (which an uncaring universe is ripping away from me).

Two things stand out in my memory that made me almost literally spit in disgust. ONE, Superboy Prime PUSHING Thanagar into a new orbit (and I haven’t forgotten that punching reality crap) and TWO, Black Adam throwing an aircraft carrier from the Indian ocean to New York and it still having live sailors aboard.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/3 "2015-08-10T20:44:21Z")

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No one single event, but my biggie is the inflation of the Flash’s powers. He can run really fast. Also, he can run really fast. That’s it. Being able to run really fast does not enable you to walk through walls, or to make things blow up, or to travel to other universes, and I’m baffled at what would make anyone think that those things are in any way related to fast running.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/4 "2015-08-10T20:53:07Z")

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Hercules towing the island of Manhattan back into place. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/5 "2015-08-10T21:27:18Z")

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Thank you **CaptMurdock**! That one is a joy of joys!

Remember when Hercules got Galactus drunk?

Great fights: Batman takes out Guy Gardner with one punch.

Outrageous feats: the Punisher kills all the superheroes and villains in the Marvel Universe.

Interesting locale for a fight: Red Sonja defeated a swordsman…fighting inside the body cavity of a dead and rotting mammoth. Sonja, victorious, saying something about really needing a bath.

The Spider-Man Graphic Novel Hooky, with art by Berni Wrightson, has Spidey fighting the “Tordenkakkerlak,” the Thunder Cockroach, which, Hydra-like, gets bigger and uglier every time Spidey kills it. And few artists do “ugly” better than Wrightson!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/6 "2015-08-10T22:33:37Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> No one single event, but my biggie is the inflation of the Flash’s powers. He can run really fast. Also, he can run really fast. That’s it. Being able to run really fast does not enable you to walk through walls, or to make things blow up, or to travel to other universes, and I’m baffled at what would make anyone think that those things are in any way related to fast running.

I’ve met enough artsy types that it doesn’t surprise me.

Remember kids, don’t do drugs!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/7 "2015-08-10T22:47:01Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> No one single event, but my biggie is the inflation of the Flash’s powers. He can run really fast. Also, he can run really fast. That’s it. Being able to run really fast does not enable you to walk through walls, or to make things blow up, or to travel to other universes, and I’m baffled at what would make anyone think that those things are in any way related to fast running.

I just read a Fantastic Four comic book where an ape traveling in a glass spaceship gained magnetism as a superpower, which he then used to pick up and throw human beings around.

By comic standards, the Flash being able to vibrate through solid objects is hard science, is what I’m saying.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/8 "2015-08-10T22:50:46Z")

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Any fight where the Thing goes up against the Hulk.

Bonus X 50 if Jack Kirby drew it.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/9 "2015-08-10T23:01:18Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Thank you **CaptMurdock**! That one is a joy of joys!
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> Remember when Hercules got Galactus drunk?

“Not Just Another Galactus Story!” IIRC.

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> Great fights: Batman takes out Guy Gardner with one punch.

I remember that, too. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/10 "2015-08-10T23:04:50Z")

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In one Capt. America issue, the Kingpin fought the Red Skull hand-to-hand. As they fought, they debated over their ideologies. I can’t remember who won, but it was a memorable fight.

In Batman: The Cult, Jason Todd and a beaten Batman are surrounded by drugged-up sewer dwellers. Jason Todd’s response: “All right you sorry clowns, let’s party!”

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/11 "2015-08-10T23:08:22Z")

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The big one from my days of comic reading was [Spider-Man defeating Firelord](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/03/18/the-wrong-side-spider-man-vs-firelord/).

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**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/12 "2015-08-10T23:36:56Z")

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Perfect example there, Nonsuch. Just checked out the link and saw that… yeah, makes no sense at all.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/13 "2015-08-10T23:54:42Z")

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Don’t forget the time Reggie tricked Moose into shoplifting a soda. That nut!

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/14 "2015-08-11T00:00:29Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> The big one from my days of comic reading was [Spider-Man defeating Firelord](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/03/18/the-wrong-side-spider-man-vs-firelord/).

I remember this one pretty well. The point of the story is that these characters’ power levels are far from consistent. Spidey, on a really good day, is a fair match for a drunken, sick or hung-over Firelord (or, a few issues earlier or later, a “doesn’t plan ahead very well” Juggernaut). This is also how Ben Grimm occasionally beats the Hulk, who is clearly stronger.

I don’t like having the Avengers beat the Celestials or the Beyonders shortly after having their asses handed to them by the Hood’s gang, especially when the Hood story is so much better-written.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/15 "2015-08-11T06:39:23Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> The big one from my days of comic reading was [Spider-Man defeating Firelord](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/03/18/the-wrong-side-spider-man-vs-firelord/).

More recently, Black Panther beating the Silver Surfer with an arm bar.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/16 "2015-08-11T13:16:03Z")

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Little me rolled my eyes at an old old Superboy scenario: Superboy flies to some distant solar system. The inhabited planet there has a problem- exactly half of the planet has some sort of killer jungle. So Superboy slices the planet in half, discards the jungle half, and brings over half of a similarly sized planet that’s jungle free and melds them together.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/17 "2015-08-11T14:08:01Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Little me rolled my eyes at an old old Superboy scenario: Superboy flies to some distant solar system. The inhabited planet there has a problem- exactly half of the planet has some sort of killer jungle. So Superboy slices the planet in half, discards the jungle half, and brings over half of a similarly sized planet that’s jungle free and melds them together.

I remember that one! He built a giant circular sawblade out of diamonds!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/18 "2015-08-11T14:14:31Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> The big one from my days of comic reading was [Spider-Man defeating Firelord](http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/03/18/the-wrong-side-spider-man-vs-firelord/).

How about Daredevil defeating Spider-Man? That should be comparably one-sided, yet they wrote it.

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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/19 "2015-08-11T16:19:08Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Any fight where the Thing goes up against the Hulk.
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> Bonus X 50 if Jack Kirby drew it.

Ah, my favorite memmories of the F4. I don’t think the Thing ever won though. I got really worried when pebbles started to fly from the Thing. I think he had some good fights against Thor and Sub Mariner too?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/outrageous-fights-or-feats-in-comics/727479/20 "2015-08-11T18:11:20Z")

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> [@Gothic](#):
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> Ah, my favorite memmories of the F4. I don’t think the Thing ever won though. I got really worried when pebbles started to fly from the Thing. I think he had some good fights against Thor and Sub Mariner too?

There was a Daredevil vs Submariner, too.  
DD got his fanny whipped, but Namor spared him, out of respect for his guts.

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