# Over 150 people killed in human crush in South Korea \[29 Oct 2022\]

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**Created:** [October 29, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/over-150-people-killed-in-human-crush-in-south-korea-29-oct-2022/973975 "2022-10-29T18:39:14Z")\
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The videos I have seen indicate it was just a typical crush. That is, brought about by too many people in too small an area. I see no reason to attribute any blame to members of the crowd. I strongly suspect this will, like so many similar incidents, prove to be the result of poor design, poor (or totally absent) crowd management (by police/security, not by the crowd itself), and other systemic failures.

But that won’t stop people from trying to blame the crowd. It never does.

ETA: We discussed a similar (albeit smaller scale) tragedy not even a year ago.

> [@Fatal crowd surge at Houston concert](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fatal-crowd-surge-at-houston-concert/953887/4):
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> I’ll note that while the wikipedia article as you’ve linked it reads “Astroworld Festival stampede”, the page has since been renamed (more aptly, I suspect) to “Astroworld Festival crowd crush”. There’s a difference (between a stampede and a crush), and it undercuts somewhat the notion that this has something to do with the IQ of crowds. And I say “somewhat” because I think the implication that even stampeding people must be acting stupidly is problematic. More to the point, a crowd crush may …

What is perhaps most perplexing and worrying, apart from the sheer number of victims here, is that this happened on a public street or alleyway. Which might mean that civil authorities could be implicated for… well, basically, the layout of their city killed people. Or so it would seem. That’s… gonna be hard to overcome.

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