# Overreaction in banning this guy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2001, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805 "2001-07-09T10:31:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/61 "2001-07-09T16:13:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scylla \*  
> \*\*I’m gonna try to dig it out with some nailclippers, and the awl on my swiss army knife. \*\*

Whatever you use, don’t forget to sterilize it! I find that a cigarette lighter works well for this purpose.

While previewing, I noticed that you got it out. If you didn’t sterlize it, I’d put some antibiotic stuff on it. Don’t forget that thousands of children may be watching and trying to emulate you. For heaven’s sake, **Scylla** , _Think of the Children!_

Fenris

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/62 "2001-07-09T16:14:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by kabbes \*  
> > \*\*Not to mention that your ire of this hijack has directly resulted in us all being half way to Cuba by now.  
> > \*\*
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> Bullshit. You were well on your way to hijacking this thread much like you did the Silo thread, simply because you don’t like it.
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> I just got in here on commented on it before it really got going.
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> Saying I’m responsible for this thread being hijacked? Utter bullshit, and again, pathetic. \*\*

That’s it? You’re picking on an ironic comment made in jest?

Nothing to say about the counter-arguments put to you?

Pathetic does indeed sum it up quite nicely

pan

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/63 "2001-07-09T16:20:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*Whatever you use, don’t forget to sterilize it! I find that a cigarette lighter works well for this purpose.  
> Fenris \*\*

I most emphatically disagree. My son thought that a cigarette lighter would ‘sterilize’ the needle that he used to pierce his eyebrow. When his eye swelled shut he found out differently. (and I agree w/\*\* kabbes\*\* assesment of the differences in the two threads, had composed a response that was similar in nature)

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/64 "2001-07-09T16:24:09Z")

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A couple of points Cnote, a hijack doesn’t automatically kill a thread unless the thread was already on it’s last breath. Also, as I said before, it isn’t always what you say that gets a point across.

Is it just me or does anyone else think splinters hurt soooooo good when they slide out?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/65 "2001-07-09T16:36:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diane \*  
> \*\*Is it just me or does anyone else think splinters hurt soooooo good when they slide out? \*\*

Definitely not just you - it goes a long way towards undoing the irritation of getting one.

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**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/66 "2001-07-09T16:37:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
> \*\*You disagree with the O.P.? How about saying why? \*\*

Actually many of us did explain at length why we thought the OP is ridiculous. Feel free to respond to my post or any other post made against the OP.

I hate to use a tennis analogy but the ball’s in your court.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/67 "2001-07-09T16:44:31Z")

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I don’t get it. Do you use the lighter to sterilize the needle to to burn out the splinter? I think I would rather have a sliver than a burn.

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/68 "2001-07-09T17:03:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> Actually many of us did explain at length why we thought the OP is ridiculous. Feel free to respond to my post or any other post made against the OP.
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> I hate to use a tennis analogy but the ball’s in your court. \*\*

You did? Where would that post be, **Alphagene**?

Because I don’t see where you’re saying much of anything in this thread, up until this point, and this thread is where I’m having a problem with the tennis hijack coming up again.

If that’s what’s going to happen whenever someone has a question on moderator actions being discussed around here, than I think it’s lame.

If your asking me whether or not closing the thread mentioned in _this_ thread is right or wrong, than my opinion is that I don’t have a problem with it.

What I do have a problem with is dismissing the question the way Gary and the others did.

And if you can spot this in between the splinter posts, I’d have to say I think the flat out dismissal is happening again in this thread, where, incidentally, I originally brought up my having a problem with it.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/69 "2001-07-09T17:06:27Z")

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I forgot to sterilize, but I did suck on my finger after I got the splinter out.

That should be good enough.

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**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/70 "2001-07-09T17:09:58Z")

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> You did? Where would that post be, Alphagene?
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> Because I don’t see where you’re saying much of anything in this thread, up until this point, and this thread is where I’m having a problem with the tennis hijack coming up again.

Uhhhhhhhhhhh, I believe that would be right **here** , Chris:

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> \*\*Let’s see. Gary doesn’t have a history of being a unquestioning mod lover. Badtz, you have a history of being shocked and appalled when it comes to various moderator actions. Which of you sounds more like they have a spastic patella?
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> Is manny’s reaction over the top? It would be if the post wasn’t so goddamn stupid.
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> The minute Cecil Adams starts answering questions in a manner completely devoid of sarcasm, insults and humor at the expense of the dense, then we as mods will do our best to be diplomatic and to ensure that no one’s feelings are hurt, even if they display profoundly dumb behavior.
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> Look, we’re not going to respond to raw cluelessness and snippy posts with nothing but a polite scolding and a shit-eating grin. That ain’t the Straight Dope way.
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> If the Straight Dope way ain’t your way then there’s the highway[sup]TM[/sup].
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> [sub]“My way or the highway” is a registered trademark of _Road House_. Please do not touch the dancers.[/sub] \*\*

That was back on page one. But Hell, even if Alpha hadn’t said anything himself, the fact remains that you’re choosing your battles in this thread. You still haven’t addressed the analogies put forth by both Scylla and myself, and they WERE relevant to the OP. Splinter comments or not, people are raising issues in their posts, and you seem to be ignoring a large number of them.

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/71 "2001-07-09T17:18:17Z")

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> \*\*If your asking me whether or not closing the thread mentioned in _this_ thread is right or wrong, than my opinion is that I don’t have a problem with it.  
> \*\*

You know what, I take that back.

I’m not sure I agree or disagree with what happened. What would have been nice would have been reading the different ideas people had or whether it was right or wrong, just or unjust, and, specifically, _why_ that is, and then making the call. Instead, because of a select few, the discussion has turned to an issue of splinters.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/72 "2001-07-09T17:23:13Z")

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Isn’t it a moot point anyway, because that poster wasn’t banned? Since the factual point that led to the creation of this thread was found false, why not talk about tennis?

And was I the only one suprised to see how Henin came back after the rain delay to win the women’s semis like that? At the beginning, Capriati was wiping the floor with her. I know, it probably was the blister that was throwing off Henin’s game, but still…

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/73 "2001-07-09T17:29:53Z")

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I flat out missed that **Jester** , no two ways about it.

In response to **Scylla’s** analogy, which is,

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> \*\*I got a better analogy. Say you go out to dinner, and there’s this one guy, all he does is talk aobut taxes. It’s a social dinner, so people are polite for a while, but the guy keeps droning on and on.
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> After a while he’s ignored, but he keeps talking. So, pretty soon everybody just starts interrupting him with no sequitors whenever he starts his little tax-spiel.
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> Eventually he gets the point and everyone enjoys their dinner.\*\*

Did it occur to you that some of the people at that table _wanted_ to be there and were curious about what he had to say?

I mean, that guys table isn’t the only one in the restaurant. Go find a different one if the discussion at this one is so bothersome to you.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/74 "2001-07-09T17:31:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
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> > \*\*If your asking me whether or not closing the thread mentioned in _this_ thread is right or wrong, than my opinion is that I don’t have a problem with it.  
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> You know what, I take that back.
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> I’m not sure I agree or disagree with what happened. What would have been nice would have been reading the different ideas people had or whether it was right or wrong, just or unjust, and, specifically, _why_ that is, and then making the call. Instead, because of a select few, the discussion has turned to an issue of splinters.
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**Boo-Fucking Hoo**

Then respond to the serious points raised. This whining is just like the whining about Manny’s nonbanning of whoever.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/75 "2001-07-09T17:36:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
> \*\*I mean, that guys table isn’t the only one in the restaurant. Go find a different one if the discussion at this one is so bothersome to you. \*\*

This hijack is not preventing the other discussion at all. What’s preventing the other discussion from happening is that no one else seems to be posting about it. Hmm?? I’ve been in several GD threads where 2 or 3 simultaneous tangents seem to go on for a while. Since the OP, we had a couple of folks posting directly OT, but disagreeing with the OP, then came the tennis stuff. Since then, it’s been a back and forth volleys of tennis/splinter vs. your problem with the tennis/splinter hijack. Seems to me that if anyone still wanted to post an opinion on the OP they could.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/76 "2001-07-09T17:36:51Z")

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Cnote:

How about we back up and calm down?

Seeing as this is actually a nonbanning and not an actual banning, can you specifically restate the complaint so that we may respond to it?  
(Actually, it ain’t your dinner party Cnote,)

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/77 "2001-07-09T17:36:53Z")

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If anyone really cares about the issue raised in the OP, they could chime in anytime. Several people seem to have opened a thread about a banning, saw the OP’s little whine and the several posts of tennis and splinters, and decided to not bother addressing the OP, for whatever reasons. No one has been forcefully made to ignore the OP. But no one seems to want to talk about it.

Sorry we haven’t fulfilled your need to rehash the same vitriol, competing analogies, etc. from the Silo thread and skipped straight to the tennis hijack, but _no one_ seems to want to discuss the OP anymore. They really just don’t care. If anyone wants to protest Manny’s actions, the thread is right here for them to do so. If they’re scared of a bunch of people discussing Scylla’s splinter, that’s their own damn problem.

Oh, and I think the flame is used to sterilize the needle, after which it is allowed to cool before being used.

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/78 "2001-07-09T17:37:46Z")

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I give up. This is really a bitch arguing my points in-between splinter posts.

I’ve had a chance to fully read **Alphagene’s** post back on page one. It makes sense, I guess.

All I was looking for was some kind of serious response.

The irony of this thing is that had the tennis/splinter thing not happened, I probably would have read that line and left it at that.

But since the blatant hijack came up, I missed it in my anger. I thought, as has become the case, that this would once again turn into a BS thread.

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**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/79 "2001-07-09T17:47:22Z")

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> But since the blatant hijack came up, I missed it in my anger. I thought, as has become the case, that this would once again turn into a BS thread.

Except, of course, for the last 10 posts or so, all of which have been focused on the issue that you raised. You got what you wanted, Chris: serious discussion of your issue. If you’re backing out now, claiming that there are “no serious posts” in the thread, then it seems a bit like you know you’re beaten, and don’t want to admit it.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2001, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/overreaction-in-banning-this-guy/71805/80 "2001-07-09T18:04:51Z")

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Well, I for one am horrified that **Doctor Goo Fee** has been banned! He is obviously a man of rare taste and breeding, and all our lives will be as farts in the wind without him. Really, I think banning him was WAY over the line! How much more SHIT will th’ People TAKE? I’m going to hold my breath until full posting privileges are restored to him. Who’s with me?

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