Overreaction in banning this guy?

This may surprise you, London Calling, and a number of others involved in this thread, but I see your point. I never didn’t see it, if I could be so presumptuous of myself.

The analogy you resurrect is indeed apt. I’ll try to explain myself even better than I’ve been able to do so at this point by using it.

I’ll try, but be patient with me. Others that are great at clarifying what I’m getting at haven’t come in here to do so, so I’m on my own (Not that I mind that, I don’t, it just makes it harder for me to try and explain it all, instead of going, “Yeah, what he/she said too!”) I’m a lone guy yelling at the chorus here.

Again, back to the silo thread and the ‘Table at a restaurant’ analogy-

A large table of people are turning ugly with each other. They’ve been there for awhile and nothing is being accomplished except that people are talking past each other and getting angrier and angrier with each other. Johnny steps in with a non-sequitor that effectively stops the previous discussion and moves it towards something else, something more friendly. All becomes fine and people settle down.

*Now, let me add an element to that analogy that might explain my position better- which is, the people are sitting at… hmm… table number seven and they’re at the desert phase.

Now, that’s all fine and dandy a technique to employ at that time, at table seven, to have Johnny come in and diffuse the argument. It worked over there and I won’t argue it merits with table seven, after all they’ve been through- hell, that’s a long meal- you deserve desert.

But why is that technique then appropriate for, say, table five over there on appetizers… table six over by the window starting on the bottle of wine… our table two that’s at its entre?

The conditions that led to the discussion over on table seven weren’t present over here on table two. It was just starting with salad, as it were.

Or was it only because people were having something similar to eat/say that made it appropriate?

That’s effectively making a topic that has every reason to belong in this forum moot. Because whenever that topic comes up, others will come in a start talking about tennis, splinters, or who knows what. Tables are no longer tables, it’s just one giant room.

How is that effective, or even a reasonable, open, discussion of the topic at hand?

Isn’t that much like what Diane accused me of doing up there earlier on this page? That is, ” …attempt to tell others what they should and should not write.”?

I think it is…

And that’s the only thing I’ve attempted to convey in my posts here.

Let the conversation at least resolve the O.P. before you decide it’s run it’s course and won’t be discussed anymore and hijack it.

Let’s get past the salad before you give me desert.

Good post, CNote, and I see your point, but I think that this thread is a different case altogether.

If you don’t mind, I’m going to leave the dinner analogies by the wayside, since they’re starting to get complicated and I get confused easily.

Anyway, you say that hijackers should wait for the thread to be resolved before they run in and start posting. This thread, was pretty much resolved from the get-go. It was pointed out pretty much in the first reply that Dr. Goo Fee did not actually get banned, and it was a moot point.

However, a few people seemed to be taking the opportunity that this thread offered as a chance to open up old wounds. Conversation began to veer dangerously towards the hard feelings that had been thrown around in the Silo thread, so that the topic was already being diverted.

Gary, seeing this, decided to throw out a non sequitor that connected to the Silo thread, to show people the path that it was going on. It worked. People once again realized, as they had in the Silo thread, that it just wasn’t worth getting pissed off about.

So, you say that a thread should be allowed to run its course before it’s decided to be a non-issue. For the most part I agree, but this thread was resolved from the start. It was the fallout, and the close proximity in time to the Silo thread, that posed the real threat, and Gary successfully diffused that. And then, to wrap up any loose ends about the reason for the thread closing, Alpha came in and posted a policy which most people should have known already, frankly.

Also, Diane and others have made the very good point that just one post does not a hijack make. The topic discussed in the OP was dead enough for more people to hop on the tennis/splinter idea and run with it.

I see your point in the case of many threads, just not this one. In this one, I think that Gary’s move was actually the best that could have been made.

Fair enough, Jester.

I too, see your point better now.

Awesome. This has been quite the enlightening little debate.

So…whaddya wanna talk about?:smiley:
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What I am afraid you may not be seeing is that although a post may not be written in specifics, a hijack says a lot! It gets the point across sometimes more clearer than if it were spelled out in exacts. A hijack doesn’t prevent anyone else from commenting on the OP nor does it kill the thread unless it is already on the last breaths.

This may be hard to follow because I’m using my female/mom logic which doesn’t make a lot of sense to most.

Having met Twisty, I know he is very cute, very funny, and knows his comic book stuff. Sounds like the perfect match for my daughter. However, the first and most important thing is that I know his “moves” and he knows that I know his “moves”. While most mothers would think “Ahhhh, Twisty is such a sweetheart for bringing my daughter home a Dutch painting.” I would be chasing his Irish ass down because I KNOW!!

Her current boyfriend had his grandma help him make an adorable quilt and then gave it to her after a date. It has Lady and the Tramp eating spaghetti and is very sweet. He also brings flowers and buys her little trinkets. So you see, while I am thinking what a darling he is, there may be sinister motives that I don’t know about.

It isn’t a good thing when a mom doesn’t know the daughter’s boyfriend’s moves. With Twisty, I was already way ahead of the game. :wink:

What I am afraid you may not be seeing is that although a post may not be written in specifics, a hijack says a lot! It gets the point across sometimes more clearer than if it were spelled out in exacts. A hijack doesn’t prevent anyone else from commenting on the OP nor does it kill the thread unless it is already on the last breaths.

This may be hard to follow because I’m using my female/mom logic which doesn’t make a lot of sense to most.

Having met Twisty, I know he is very cute, very funny, and knows his comic book stuff. Sounds like the perfect match for my daughter. However, the first and most important thing is that I know his “moves” and he knows that I know his “moves”. While most mothers would think “Ahhhh, Twisty is such a sweetheart for bringing my daughter home a Dutch painting.” I would be chasing his Irish ass down because I KNOW!!

Her current boyfriend had his grandma help him make an adorable quilt and then gave it to her after a date. It has Lady and the Tramp eating spaghetti and is very sweet. He also brings flowers and buys her little trinkets. So you see, while I am thinking what a darling he is, there may be sinister motives that I don’t know about.

It isn’t a good thing when a mom doesn’t know the daughter’s boyfriend’s moves. With Twisty, I was already way ahead of the game. :wink:

You can say that again, Diane :smiley:
I don’t think we disagree on anything CnoteChris, a hijack remains a hijack and is undesirable all the while there remains some vitality - or at least something of merit to be said - in the thread. I also agree that at what point a thread is ‘done’ is a difficult judgement call on which opinions will inevitably vary.

But I also think that Pit Threads are unique in that some can go on for page after page after page with people all saying “I wasn’t going to post but…” before then repeating something said on page two, again on page three, four and five. - it’s not unlike being asked to eat exactly the same dish one course after another.

Finally, I also think that diversions like the tennis hijack (there are much better examples) are the kind of thing that make the SDMB as good as it is i.e. something vaguely off-the-wall that people pick up and run with. Perhaps it’s also a reaffirmation that we’re all on the wrong wave-length.

Now, unfortunately, you’ve made me hungry so I have to tuck into my Irish Coffee.

BTW, I just saved this post from the ‘square box syndrome’(I think) - what’s that all about ?

He made her a quilt?
Oh Lord, this is WAY worse than operation painting.
My god, a quilt already! what is the world coming to…

( heheh… that’ll stir up the motherly emotions)

:wink:
Diane, you know me too well… Its scary sometimes…

Ahhhh yes. . . . The Quilt. . . .

It is maroon and pink satin with hand-painted panels from Lady and the Tramp (Jeff painted these), red hearts framed with white lace, and a heart at the bottom with “I LOVE CHRISTINE” painted across the center.

Oh and then there are the maroon, heart shaped pillows with white lace around the edges that go with it. (I’ll take a picture and e-mail to ya).

Jeff is this big, brut of a kid who you would never except would make a quilt.

It is all so sappy sweet.

My response to him when he said he made it to keep her warm was (and I said this in my scary voice) “AS LONG AS THAT IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING HER WARM!” Then I made a couple of motions with my fingers that sort of resembled scissors. Then I shot him the evil eye. Then I bared my teeth.

Do you think that did the trick or should I still be very, VERY worried?

I still think you would be the perfect boyfriend for her. I mean it would all be so perfect. I know your moves AND she is outside your penis parameter. :slight_smile:

OK, Christine has a brute with a satin quilt fetish and Twisty has a penis parameter – what is that ? I didn’t notice he walked funny. Well, apart from when he walked past the Banana Bar and even then it was just a strange limp thing (his walk, I mean).

Is that something else he bought in Amsterdam ?

Well, he did trip over something, didn’t he? :slight_smile:

Right.

Let President Twisty Clarify the situation…
I did not see the kerb.

If you want to think it was another reason, fire away!!
And you did right with the quilt. The scissors thingy was a great idea. :wink:

Foo Gee I don’t believe was banned. Only his post. Otherwise, you would see “banned” below his name.

Let’s look at MANHATTAN’S comments on it:

“If you are too stupid to know why a thread on how best to obtain illegal drugs would be closed, than I fear that you possess too much ignorance to be eradicated by this website.”

Yep, Manhattan is an asshole. What he says has validity, but slandering ANY poster, regardless of how justified, by a moderator, is WAY out of line, and Manhattan is well known for this and has shown no indication of changing. I suppose he is the type who feels everyone is stupid except his geeky little self. Gives all New Yorkers south of Westchester county a really bad name.

Not that Ms. Bodoni gives a shit. I desire not to get in another confrontation with him, or her, but this is certainly conduct unbecoming a moderator.

Look at the last line though. He is saying Foo Gee
“posess[es] too much ignorance to be eradicated by this website.” Thus he will be kept around awhile for cruel amusement.

:rolleyes:

So, who do y’all favor in the Tour de France?

Screw the bike race, I just wanna know why I handed Twisty the ball implying that his weiner is so long that he actually tripped over it and that he didn’t run with it. :wink:

The mods claim that they closed the thread because he was asking about how to buy pot as an “intellectual exercise.” Is this guy stupid, yes.

However, I’ve seen at least two “how to commit a perfect murder (just as a mental execise)” threads go unhindered.

I said:

The ball I mean, not his weiner.

OK, I think the “banning” issue has pretty much dried up. If anyone has objections to any other mod actions, feel free to start a new thread.