# Owner of gun company, producer of pro-gun Youtube videos shot dead

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 12, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934 "2013-01-12T03:34:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/1 "2013-01-12T03:34:50Z")

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> **[Producer of popular gun-related videos found fatally shot | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2013/01/11/justice/georgia-gun-video-producer/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)**
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> Authorities in Georgia are investigating the apparent homicide of a Georgia man who produced popular gun-related YouTube videos.

Clearly, this never would have happened if the gun nuts all had guns to defend themselves with.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/2 "2013-01-12T04:19:45Z")

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> Several guns were found at the scene, but none of them were used to shoot Ratliff, the GBI said in a news release.

That’s probably a bit of an understatement. Just a guess here.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/3 "2013-01-12T04:55:55Z")

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The NRA immediately demanded an armed guard for every gun owner in America.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/4 "2013-01-12T17:14:08Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> The NRA immediately demanded an armed guard for every gun owner in America.

For the win.😛

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/5 "2013-01-12T17:20:38Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> The NRA immediately demanded an armed guard for every gun owner in America.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? 😃

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/6 "2013-01-12T17:25:00Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> > Several guns were found at the scene, but none of them were used to shoot Ratliff, the GBI said in a news release.
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> That’s probably a bit of an understatement. Just a guess here.

Yeah. From what I’ve heard of them, the guys who make these videos are gun nuts in a more literal way than is usually meant. The sort whose lasts words you expect to be something like “Hey, watch this!”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/7 "2013-01-12T17:25:10Z")

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What’s with the MagLite on the barrel of that AR-dirivative?

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**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/8 "2013-01-12T18:11:35Z")

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Live by the gun…

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/9 "2013-01-12T18:21:27Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> What’s with the MagLite on the barrel of that AR-dirivative?

Homemade silencer if I had to take a guess, but I don’t see any holes or anything in it.  
Either that, or it’s mounted next to it (like a bayonet) and it just looks like it’s mounted on the end.

ETA, it’s a '[Mag Light suppressor](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xBQe6HPWtrY#!)"

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/10 "2013-01-12T18:28:02Z")

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The details are online with him showing how to make it if you care to look for them.

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/11 "2013-01-12T18:42:55Z")

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It’s how he would’ve wanted to go.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/12 "2013-01-12T18:52:24Z")

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maybe he shot himself?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/13 "2013-01-12T18:54:33Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> ETA, it’s a '[Mag Light suppressor](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xBQe6HPWtrY#!)"

OK, I was curious and found websites and videos describing how to make such a silencer, and while I have no experience or interest in guns, it’s a neat bit of homemade engineering.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/14 "2013-01-12T19:21:37Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> ETA, it’s a '[Mag Light suppressor](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xBQe6HPWtrY#!)"

Interesting, and effective.

Silencers are legal to own in this state (in accordance with federal regulations applying thereto), but it’s illegal to actually put one on a gun. Weird, eh?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/15 "2013-01-12T19:26:34Z")

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I’m curious-Are there any shooting competitions involving silencers/suppressors?

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/16 "2013-01-12T19:27:13Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> From what I’ve heard of them, the guys who make these videos are gun nuts in a more literal way than is usually meant.

What immediately flashed into my mind upon reading this sentence was a walnut trying to shoot a gun while another walnut films it.

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/17 "2013-01-12T19:28:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> It’s how he would’ve wanted to go.

I expect the video will be uploaded any time now

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/18 "2013-01-12T19:30:55Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Interesting, and effective.
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> Silencers are legal to own in this state (in accordance with federal regulations applying thereto), but it’s illegal to actually put one on a gun. Weird, eh?

Are you sure that’s the actual law? I always thought it was illegal to own a bullet proof vest and a few weeks ago (as part of a bigger discussion), I looked it up.  
Turns out, in Wisconsin, it’s legal to own a bullet proof vest, but if you have one on while committing a crime it’ll add the word "Aggravated’ to the beginning of whatever you did.  
Actually, I don’t think that’s exactly how it works. A cop relative of mine looked at the code and explained it to me. It basically takes what you did and steps it up to the next level. If you walk into a store and shoot someone, it’s hard to prove you were simply defending yourself when you oddly prepared for the attack.

Looking at Wisconsin laws on silencers, unless you’re a LEO or in the armed forces, you probably shouldn’t have one in your possession.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/19 "2013-01-12T19:54:20Z")

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> [@leahcim](#):
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> What immediately flashed into my mind upon reading this sentence was a walnut trying to shoot a gun while another walnut films it.

And now what I’m picturing is [this guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mr_peanut.png) with a pith helmet and elephant gun.

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/20 "2013-01-12T20:04:58Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> And now what I’m picturing is [this guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mr_peanut.png) with a pith helmet and elephant gun.

I thought of that too, but then I remembered that peanuts are not literally nuts. He makes a good gun legume, though.

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