# Owner of gun company, producer of pro-gun Youtube videos shot dead

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 12, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934 "2013-01-12T03:34:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/21 "2013-01-12T20:25:51Z")

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> [@leahcim](#):
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> I thought of that too, but then I remembered that peanuts are not literally nuts.

That’s why he has a gun. Someone finally told him he isn’t really a nut and he just snapped. Or would that be cracked?

"Is THIS nutty enough for you?! Huh? Is it? _Is it?!"_ _ **\<BLAM BLAM BLAM\>** _

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/22 "2013-01-12T20:28:23Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> That’s why he has a gun. Someone finally told him he isn’t really a nut and he just snapped. Or would that be cracked?
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> "Is THIS nutty enough for you?! Huh? Is it? _Is it?!"_ _ **\<BLAM BLAM BLAM\>** _

Good thing no one told him he was funny.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/23 "2013-01-12T20:42:35Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Interesting, and effective.
> 
> Silencers are legal to own in this state (in accordance with federal regulations applying thereto), but it’s illegal to actually put one on a gun. Weird, eh?

Well, what are they then? Anti-kazoos?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/24 "2013-01-12T21:42:13Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Are you sure that’s the actual law?

It was, but it looks as if that was changed with [HB 1016](http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/House/1016%20HBR%20PL%2011.pdf) in 2011. I didn’t notice, since it doesn’t affect me.

> [@](#):
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> **Brief History:**  
> **Committee Activity:**  
> [indent]Judiciary: 1/12/11, 1/13/11 [DP].  
> **Floor Activity:**  
> Passed House: 2/7/11, 88-4.  
> Passed Senate: 3/29/11, 47-0.  
> Passed Legislature.[/indent]
> 
> \<snip\>
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> **Background:**
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> Washington law does not regulate the possession of firearm suppressors. However, it is a gross misdemeanor crime in Washington for any person to use “any device or contrivance for suppressing the noise of any firearm.”
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> \<snip\>
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> **Summary of Bill:**
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> The crime of using a contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of a firearm is amended to exempt the use of a suppressor that is legally registered and possessed in accordance with federal law.

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**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/25 "2013-01-12T21:59:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> It was, but it looks as if that was changed with [HB 1016](http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/House/1016%20HBR%20PL%2011.pdf) in 2011. I didn’t notice, since it doesn’t affect me.

Oh, neat. I live in WA and I’d been thinking it might be fun to get a suppressor for my AR-15, or maybe a .22 pistol with a suppressor or something like that, but I’d always been a bit leery of the way the law was written. I know they’ve been selling them at gun stores forever, but my understanding was that it was with a bit of a wink and a nudge – “Of course, Mr. Potato, you’re not going to actually _use_ it!” I just preferred to stay on the unambiguously correct side of the law, but now all I have to do is justify plonking down a big wodge of cash for the can and the tax stamp. 😛

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**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/26 "2013-01-12T23:52:35Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’m curious-Are there any shooting competitions involving silencers/suppressors?

Yes. [Here’s a few pix](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v677/ural/DGR%20Shoot/) of one last spring here in the Atlanta area. 3 gun competition; pistol, rifle - many ARs - and bolt-action benchrest shooting.  
No unsuppressed fire was allowed.

This is a “bring your guns and shoot some shit” [silencer shoot.](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v677/ural/videos/?action=view&current=SS1.mp4) As you can hear, the term silencer is a misnomer. The sounds you think are gunshots are actually the sonic crack (tiny sonic boom) of the bullets themselves exceeding the speed of sound. The report of the gun is gone, so if you were standing downrange, you wouldn’t be able to tell where the shot came from. You would hear the “crack”, but it’s source would be a mystery.

Using subsonic ammunition ~ 1,000 feet per second - makes things mucho quiet.  
A .308 is a LOUD round. Way loud. Use a suppressor and subsonic rounds and bingo, [all you hear is a click from the hammer.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV6D6aQRHOY)

> [@Stealth\_Potato](#):
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> Oh, neat. I live in WA and I’d been thinking it might be fun to get a suppressor for my AR-15, or maybe a .22 pistol with a suppressor or something like that, but I’d always been a bit leery of the way the law was written.

Fear not, covert tuber. Your governor has not forsaken you. You may now purchase, wait, then use your suppressor in your [home state](http://www.the-minuteman.org/2011/04/11/its-official-hb-1016-has-passed/).

I recommend finding an [AAC dealer](http://www.advanced-armament.com/), and doing some research [here](http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/)for your next fun [purchase](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/ural/toys/Picture38346.jpg)!

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**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/27 "2013-01-13T04:08:34Z")

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I bet it was one of his facebook friends, annoyed with him yammering about his “rights.”

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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/28 "2013-01-13T04:20:30Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> That’s probably a bit of an understatement. Just a guess here.

It’s like the plane that crashed into a cemetery and they kept finding more and more bodies.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/29 "2013-01-13T15:40:12Z")

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[off-topic]  
I find it just a tad depressing that a news item consisting of seven short paragraphs has to be accompanied by three “highlight” bullets. Because, ya know, some people can’t be bothered to read the whole thing?  
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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-gun-company-producer-of-pro-gun-youtube-videos-shot-dead/646934/30 "2013-01-13T16:22:25Z")

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So you’re advocating some kind of bullet control?

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