# Owner of /r/Redpill outed as New Hampshire politician **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 27, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387 "2017-04-27T19:14:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/1 "2017-04-27T19:14:09Z")
No points for guessing the political affiliation. > **[The Republican Lawmaker Who Secretly Created Reddit’s Women-Hating ‘Red Pill’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-republican-lawmaker-who-secretly-created-reddits-women-hating-red-pill)** > > A web of secret online identities connects the creator of the misogynistic Red Pill forum to a New Hampshire state representative. > [@](#): > > And yet Fisher’s past comments on a host of Reddit forums are arguably far more disturbing than what his colleagues have said in public. He blasted women for their “sub-par intelligence.” He said that women’s personalities are “lackluster and boring, serving little purpose in day to day life.” And Fisher once commented, “It is literally the [female] body that makes enduring these things worth it.” > [@](#): > > In a post from 2012, Fisher explained that the con “…is why feminism pushes to increase alimony and child support. In the USA where feminism is completely unchecked, women can meet another man and profit from having two providers instead of one. Alimony and child support will ensure her lifestyle isn’t the one that suffers. The only risk a woman has for leaving her husband is if she’s too old and ugly to hook another guy. But even then, the amount of money she can get from her ex-husband is almost criminal.” > [@](#): > > “Marriage, and yes, female oppression, slut shaming, religion, these were all a means to control hypergamy [infidelity]. Marriages might be considered loveless, and women might have been unhappy, but for men it meant marriages that lasted, commitments that continued, and protection against the fickle whims of females,” Fisher wrote on The Red Pill in November 2012. > [@](#): > > Of gaming women, Fisher said, “[Women have] absolutely done this to themselves. I feel zero regret or shame pumping and dumping.” Fucking christ. This asshole holds real political power, and apparently things about half of his constituents are essentially subhuman. Keep in mind, /r/redpill is essentially misogyny central. It’s entirely fair to call it a pro-rape community. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/2 "2017-04-27T19:22:50Z")
Yeah, not really surprising. And it’s been brought up. And yeah, he’s scum. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/3 "2017-04-27T19:23:58Z")
Oye. I love the redpill. Its one of the best sub-reddits there is. It is so unapologetically misogynistic and full of he-man woman hater, that it is pretty obviously satire. 95% of what is written there is guys writing what they are sure will get the biggest rise. Good for a laugh. Its about as real as Star Wars. It reminds me a bit of what StormFront used to be like; 8/10 people shouting the most obnoxious things they could think of, 1/10 believing its true and the other 1/10 not getting the joke. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/4 "2017-04-27T19:37:22Z")
> [@The Daily Beast](#): > > As a candidate for state representative, Fisher proposed bringing concerns about the supposed plague of false rape accusations into the statehouse. Hosting a forum on Reddit under the username RobertFisherforNH, Fishersought ideas to prevent “innocent people [from] receiving jail time.” He argued that because in rape cases “police err on the side of caution,” and show a high level of support for victims, the system was “susceptible to abuse” by women. > > Among Red Pillers, the notion that women commonly abuse the judicial system for means of retaliation, or “cry rape” for attention, is viewed as a matter-of-fact element of the feminist “agenda.” Fisher ran a satirical platform, then? Sounds awfully like the pussy-grabber currently residing in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/5 "2017-04-27T19:37:55Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Oye. I love the redpill. Its one of the best sub-reddits there is. It is so unapologetically misogynistic and full of he-man woman hater, that it is pretty obviously satire. 95% of what is written there is guys writing what they are sure will get the biggest rise. > > Good for a laugh. Its about as real as Star Wars. > > It reminds me a bit of what StormFront used to be like; 8/10 people shouting the most obnoxious things they could think of, 1/10 believing its true and the other 1/10 not getting the joke. Kurt Vonnegut — ‘We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.’ ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/6 "2017-04-27T19:52:59Z")
I know plenty of people who very sincerely view the Red Pill thing as legitimate. I’m sure a lot of what’s in that subreddit is fake, but Poe’s law works both ways, so we can’t know for sure. There are other subreddits I would’ve sworn were fake that wound up getting banned, and then you saw that they really did believe what they said when defending themselves. The obvious way to defend themselves would have been “it’s satire, bro.” But they didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/7 "2017-04-27T20:04:47Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Oye. I love the redpill. Its one of the best sub-reddits there is. It is so unapologetically misogynistic and full of he-man woman hater, that it is pretty obviously satire. 95% of what is written there is guys writing what they are sure will get the biggest rise. > > Good for a laugh. Its about as real as Star Wars. > > It reminds me a bit of what StormFront used to be like; 8/10 people shouting the most obnoxious things they could think of, 1/10 believing its true and the other 1/10 not getting the joke. [Sure.](http://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2017/02/reddit-the-red-pill-interview-how-misogyny-spreads-online) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/8 "2017-04-27T20:09:06Z")
Oh for fucks sake, most red pill AMA go something like i) Wife/girlfriend was a slut who slept around…elaborate ii) I now know better, and I only use women for fucking…elaborate iii) My mom was a closeted lesbian who hated me…elaborate iv) Women are stupid whores…no need to elaborate since that’s the basic gist of the place. Pretty much all the writings there have the above as subtext. Mostly people having a laugh or venting. You have to be stupid or a maybe woman (😉 :D,:D) to believe its otherwise. Edit: The New Statesman is under a paywall ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/9 "2017-04-27T20:23:54Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Oye. I love the redpill. Its one of the best sub-reddits there is. It is so unapologetically misogynistic and full of he-man woman hater, that it is pretty obviously satire. 95% of what is written there is guys writing what they are sure will get the biggest rise… Think about what a fucking piece of shit loser you’d have to be to participate in that. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/10 "2017-04-27T20:24:33Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Oh for fucks sake, most red pill AMA go something like > > i) Wife/girlfriend was a slut who slept around…elaborate > ii) I now know better, and I only use women for fucking…elaborate > iii) My mom was a closeted lesbian who hated me…elaborate > iv) Women are stupid whores…no need to elaborate since that’s the basic gist of the place. > > Pretty much all the writings there have the above as subtext. Mostly people having a laugh or venting. You have to be stupid or a maybe woman (😉 :D,:D) to believe its otherwise. “Its just a joke brah” doesn’t hold much water these days. A lot of people justified horrendous harrassment tactics & insults under the guise of “just a joke brah”. We’ve seen this game played out far too often. No doubt some are trying to play the outrage game, but far too many don’t think it is a game. > [@](#): > > Edit: The New Statesman is under a paywall Hmmm, i don’t subscribe to perhaps Scriptblocker is letting me see it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/11 "2017-04-27T20:32:41Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Hmmm, i don’t subscribe to perhaps Scriptblocker is letting me see it. Works for me. Just need to close a popup promoting subscriptions first. > [@The New Statesman](#): > > João in Portugal … now firmly believes that the Red Pill is akin to a cult. > > “If you go to Red Pill and you say something that those guys don’t really like then they will just delete your comments or just say that you are a ‘mangina’ or a ‘feminist’ or a ‘cuck’," he told me. "They have this social influence mechanism where they pre-emptively invalidate all criticism by criticising people back… and it is typical of cults to do this.” Other Red Pillers I spoke to also mentioned the threat of harassment. > > João also believes the Red Pill preys on those who are easily manipulated – be they young, nerdy, insecure, virgins, or simply going through a difficult time in life. Most of the ex-Red Pillers I spoke to were teenagers when they became involved in the subreddit, and most say they were exceptionally lonely at the time. > > Callum\*, a 29-year-old from Western Pennsylvania, has a mild case of Asperger’s syndrome and speculates that “a great many” people on the Red Pill are likely on the spectrum. He became involved with the online men’s rights forums at 19. Though he had spent much of his time at school not caring about girls, he became insecure when he started college. > > “I worried that I wasn’t thin enough, I wasn’t tall enough, I wasn’t endowed enough,” he tells me over Reddit. “I started getting very bitter about relationships in general. At no point was I ever actually angry or bitter towards women, but I was frustrated with the established societal rules, that men had to put on the show and be the best they could and that women got to pick and choose without trying much themselves, and I wasn’t being picked. > > :snip: > > There exists another misogynistic subreddit which is, in fact, deeper and darker than the Red Pill. [Reddit - Dive into anything](http://Reddit.com/r/Incels) is a place for “involuntary celibates” – people who are struggling to lose their virginity – to talk. In theory, once again, this is not terrible. In practice, however, the nearly 10,000 subscriber strong group breeds bitterness towards women, and a hatred of “Chads” – men who are romantically successful. Elliot Rodger, the Santa Barbara student who killed six people in 2014, considered himself an incel. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/12 "2017-04-27T20:49:52Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Oh for fucks sake, most red pill AMA go something like > > i) Wife/girlfriend was a slut who slept around…elaborate > ii) I now know better, and I only use women for fucking…elaborate > iii) My mom was a closeted lesbian who hated me…elaborate > iv) Women are stupid whores…no need to elaborate since that’s the basic gist of the place. > > Pretty much all the writings there have the above as subtext. Mostly people having a laugh or venting. **You have to be stupid or a maybe woman (😉 :D,:D) to believe its otherwise.** > > Edit: The New Statesman is under a paywall Just another threatened male. The rest of you in this thread are rock stars. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/13 "2017-04-27T22:49:48Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Just another threatened male. A barrister, no less. [Ask the Pakistani Lawyer](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=555702) > [@](#): > > I am was also called to the Bar of England and Wales by the Honourable Society of Lincoln’s Inn I guess even having such a relatively high-status job hasn’t helped AK84 with the chicks, eh? ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/14 "2017-04-27T23:55:37Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > **Just another threatened male**. The rest of you in this thread are rock stars. Thanks. I have various douche bags on ignore, AK84 being one of them. Once in a while I forget why I have that person on ignore and then someone will quote them (allowing me to see their post) and I remember why I had them on ignore in the first place! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/15 "2017-04-28T00:04:23Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > You have to be stupid or a maybe woman (😉 :D,:D) to believe its otherwise Thinking that that passes for a joke indicates a failure on your part. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/16 "2017-04-28T00:06:01Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > I have various douche bags on ignore, AK84 being one of them. Once in a while I forget why I have that person on ignore and then someone will quote them (allowing me to see their post) and I remember why I had them on ignore in the first place! 😃 Yeah, he really is a special case. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/17 "2017-04-28T00:06:58Z")
People here are saying Fisher is from NY. No idea if that’s true, and it’s not like Laconia’s reputation will suffer if it is, but I would take it as a sign he had grander plans and he’d only just started. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/18 "2017-04-28T01:00:16Z")
Propagating hatred and facilitating violence go hand in hand. Now would be a good time for private citizens in NH to oust Fisher, [especially since he has refused to resign](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/26/lawmaker-accused-starting-red-pill-forum-reddit-won-resign/RD057SBlGTwLoOMC9lLVLM/story.html). ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/19 "2017-04-28T01:49:59Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Oh for fucks sake, most red pill AMA go something like > > i) Wife/girlfriend was a slut who slept around…elaborate > ii) I now know better, and I only use women for fucking…elaborate > iii) My mom was a closeted lesbian who hated me…elaborate > iv) Women are stupid whores…no need to elaborate since that’s the basic gist of the place. > > Pretty much all the writings there have the above as subtext. Mostly people having a laugh or venting. You have to be stupid or a maybe woman (😉 :D,:D) to believe its otherwise. > > Edit: The New Statesman is under a paywall There is something wrong with you if you think a place like the Redpill is funny or harmless. The article **Mr. Miskatonic** linked to is not under any paywall. Read it and then come back to tell us if all the ex-Redpillers described therein are just humorless idiots who didn’t get the “joke”. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/20 "2017-04-28T01:55:45Z")
Yes, it is so obvious now. All the disgruntled males on the web - including the ones like Eliot Rodger, who granted, wasn’t on RedPill but a different MRA site - they are all satirists of the highest order! How could we have failed to see it before now? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387.md?page=2)