# Owner of /r/Redpill outed as New Hampshire politician **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 27, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387 "2017-04-27T19:14:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/61 "2017-04-28T16:32:51Z")
What you say you hate and what you actually hate are different. You see this stuff and find it funny, rather than hating it. When shown that you can inherently have no proof that it’s a joke, you continue to argue it is. When shown that the guy who ran it is a legitimate bigot in the legislature, you continue to say it’s just a joke. And this is hardly the first time you have downplayed the seriousness of bigotry. This has been pointed out to you every time you do it. You even downplay the systemic sexism in the very culture you are currently in. You have a habit of treating women’s issues as unimportant, and this is another example. You find out that r/redpill is run by a sexist lawmaker, and your response is to downplay it all as a joke. A lawyer, of all people, downplays the idea that there are many very awful people in the world. And your entire evidence is an appeal to incredulity, while discounting arguments that aren’t logical flaws. Surely a lawyer, trained in rhetoric, should know better. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/62 "2017-04-28T16:34:12Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > :rolleyes: > So you think MRA guys have a point? Cause Radical Feminists and Feminists have actual points that are valid. The main difference between the two is what the remedy is. Not the probelms. Which are absolutely real. Here’s the thing: There is a place in the world for a genuine MRA. In fact IIRC the paper thin facade of MRA does mention issues where men’s rights are an issue that should be addressed. In practice the redpill just turns into the cultish hatefest echo-chamber that just builds on more and more misogyny and anger. That part isn’t just for the lulz. It has real world consequences. There are reddit groups that try to cover genuine MRA issues (but they do not use that term because it is so utterly toxic). They are nowhere near as big as redpill because they lack the hateporn. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/63 "2017-04-28T18:34:16Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I don’t think its a joke. I think its a guy on the 'net trying to get a rise out of people. So, you’re saying women are stupid and/or unfunny, just to piss people off? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/64 "2017-04-28T18:51:20Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > And given my nationality and profession, you also forgot these > [Violence against children](https://www.dawn.com/news/1178739) > [Domestic Violence](http://pakistaniwomen.org/index.php/2016/08/20/violence-against-women-in-pakistan/). > > You want to use acid attack survivors as a trump card to win an argument over the internet? > > I have seen directly types of violence visited upon people of a description you cannot even imagine. Things I did’t actually think were possible. The types that they don’t publish in international newspapers. And I have met the perps too. And no, those guys are about as related to Redpill crowd as a Nazi to a schoolyard bully. > > So, if you want to turn this into a discussion on gender, class or ethnic based violence in Pakistan or the motivations of the attackers, then lets have at it. Hope you have a strong stomach. I will take you at your word on what you have seen and had described to you. My differences is with your not relating them at all to the Redpill crowd, which I believe is an assumption that is not well-founded, since while you may know what is in the hearts of those who have abused women whom you have actual contact with, I question if you can have the same depth of knowledge of those (mostly aynomous) on a message board. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/65 "2017-04-28T23:37:24Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Only one thing posted there is accurate. Same 🙂 > [@Bricker](#): > > Now? How would they do it now? I don’t believe NH allows recall. They would do it now by making his life difficult: Protesting outside the [New Hampshire State House](https://goo.gl/maps/4CFL9BeVQho), his places of business and home address. He owns two computer repair shops called [Same Day Computer](http://www.samedaycomputers.com/). There’s a location in [Laconia](https://www.yelp.com/biz/same-day-computer-laconia-2) and another in [Portsmouth](https://www.yellowpages.com/portsmouth-nh/mip/same-day-computer-inc-453774366). His home address, office phone number and state rep e-mail are also listed in [his official state rep profile](http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=377225). New Hampshirites should really ask themselves, “How can a man like Robert ‘Rapist’ Fisher be an effective public servant? Could he effectively represent our daughters, mothers and wives even if it was under supervision?” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_White\_Dope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/22d042/32.png) [@Great\_White\_Dope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_White_Dope)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/66 "2017-04-29T00:15:31Z")
Does someone want to briefly sum up the trail of evidence which allegedly proves the founder of RedPill is this New Hampshire politician? You see, I have a weak stomach and can only read fake news garbage like the Daily Beast in small doses; certainly not enough to read the full article. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/67 "2017-04-29T01:12:13Z")
> [@Dr.Crap](#): > > They would do it now by making his life difficult: Protesting outside the [New Hampshire State House](https://goo.gl/maps/4CFL9BeVQho), his places of business and home address. He owns two computer repair shops called [Same Day Computer](http://www.samedaycomputers.com/). There’s a location in [Laconia](https://www.yelp.com/biz/same-day-computer-laconia-2) and another in [Portsmouth](https://www.yellowpages.com/portsmouth-nh/mip/same-day-computer-inc-453774366). His home address, office phone number and state rep e-mail are also listed in [his official state rep profile](http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/member.aspx?member=377225). For the sake of clarity in this matter, his private business would be his primary occupation – State Representative in New Hampshire is very much a part-time position, there’s 400 of the suckers and they are paid the princely sum of $200 per two-year term plus mileage. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/68 "2017-04-29T01:23:38Z")
> [@Great\_White\_Dope](#): > > Does someone want to briefly sum up the trail of evidence which allegedly proves the founder of RedPill is this New Hampshire politician? You see, I have a weak stomach and can only read fake news garbage like the Daily Beast in small doses; certainly not enough to read the full article. > > Thanks. No, learn to fucking read. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/69 "2017-04-29T01:57:14Z")
> [@Great\_White\_Dope](#): > > Does someone want to briefly sum up the trail of evidence which allegedly proves the founder of RedPill is this New Hampshire politician? You see, I have a weak stomach and can only read fake news garbage like the Daily Beast in small doses; certainly not enough to read the full article. > > Thanks. You want us to give you the Cliff Notes version of something you’ve already dismissed as “fake news”? No thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/70 "2017-04-29T06:23:45Z")
> [@Great\_White\_Dope](#): > > Does someone want to briefly sum up the trail of evidence which allegedly proves the founder of RedPill is this New Hampshire politician? You see, I have a weak stomach and can only read fake news garbage like the Daily Beast in small doses; certainly not enough to read the full article. > > Thanks. You do your name proud, moron. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/71 "2017-04-29T11:37:40Z")
Here’s the deal, AK84: if you visited redpill once, read for a bit, thought “wow, these guys are losers and mostly trolling each other, what a stupid circle jerk”, that’s fine. But if you keep going there, I have to wonder why. The internet is full of crazy people going on about crazy things. Someone who keeps going there finds some sort of emotional resonance with what is being said. It’s possible someone who really, really hated MRA/PUA types would go there to get all Recreationally Outraged, but I don’t think that’s you. You don’t seem to be the guy who gets an indignation boner over this sort of thing. The other reason that comes to mind is that while these guys are over the top and crazy, you don’t think they are entirely wrong and you enjoy seeing your own views exaggerated and stylized. There may be some other reason. I don’t really know or care. But it’s not a place I can imagine someone repeatedly lurking just out of innocent fun. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/72 "2017-04-29T12:30:26Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Here’s the deal, AK84: if you visited redpill once, read for a bit, thought “wow, these guys are losers and mostly trolling each other, what a stupid circle jerk”, that’s fine. > > But if you keep going there, I have to wonder why. The internet is full of crazy people going on about crazy things. Someone who keeps going there finds some sort of emotional resonance with what is being said. It’s possible someone who really, really hated MRA/PUA types would go there to get all Recreationally Outraged, but I don’t think that’s you. You don’t seem to be the guy who gets an indignation boner over this sort of thing. The other reason that comes to mind is that while these guys are over the top and crazy, you don’t think they are entirely wrong and you enjoy seeing your own views exaggerated and stylized. > > There may be some other reason. I don’t really know or care. But it’s not a place I can imagine someone repeatedly lurking just out of innocent fun. Been there perhaps a dozen times in the last six months. And probably that many time someone has sent me a link to a specific thread on WhatsApp or FB. Usually, some outraged Feminist, since this may surprise you, most of my social and professional group consists of those types of people. , \ Your power of getting into my head and reading my innermost thoughts and motivations. You should join the NSA \ And I think my patience with this thread is at an end. And my participation. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/73 "2017-04-29T12:45:49Z")
MISSED ETA: I think my first visit was the in the days after Trump was elected. A time when I increased exponentially my reading of “deplorable” sites, like Breitbart, InfoWars, Return of Kings. The RedPill was one of them. Since the election was a surprise, I thought I better read up more about these types of people and their views. The first two are plenty dangerous. Return of Kings is unreadable and RedPill is a bunch of people venting, saying outrageous things and basically, what I have said upthread. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/74 "2017-04-29T17:06:17Z")
> [@Great\_White\_Dope](#): > > Does someone want to briefly sum up the trail of evidence which allegedly proves the founder of RedPill is this New Hampshire politician? You see, I have a weak stomach and can only read fake news garbage like the Daily Beast in small doses; certainly not enough to read the full article. > > Thanks. You’re a 19-year-old college MAN at Rutgers, right? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/75 "2017-04-29T17:11:48Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > MISSED ETA: I think my first visit was the in the days after Trump was elected. A time when I increased exponentially my reading of “deplorable” sites, like Breitbart, InfoWars, Return of Kings. The RedPill was one of them. Since the election was a surprise, I thought I better read up more about these types of people and their views. The first two are plenty dangerous. Return of Kings is unreadable and RedPill is a bunch of people venting, saying outrageous things and basically, what I have said upthread. So you think the guy who started redpill doesn’t really believe any of it, it’s all just a joke?. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/76 "2017-04-30T11:51:14Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Yes, it is so obvious now. All the disgruntled males on the web - including the ones like Eliot Rodger, who granted, wasn’t on RedPill but a different MRA site - they are all satirists of the highest order! > > How could we have failed to see it before now? Eliot Rodger was on [puahate.org](http://puahate.org), an anti-Pick Up Artist website, he was not in any way associated with any Mens’ Rights movement websites. The claim that he was an MRA, along with the focus on /r/TheRedPill, is mainly a very dishonest tactic designed to slander MRAs. You know, there’s a /r/MensRights for MRAs. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/77 "2017-04-30T16:06:12Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > Eliot Rodger was on [puahate.org](http://puahate.org), an anti-Pick Up Artist website, he was not in any way associated with any Mens’ Rights movement websites. The claim that he was an MRA, along with the focus on /r/TheRedPill, is mainly a very dishonest tactic designed to slander MRAs. You know, there’s a /r/MensRights for MRAs. The focus on redpill is because so many people with their horrid atttitude actually exist. ---
**Author:** ![Ztransform](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/48db29/32.png) [@Ztransform](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ztransform)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/78 "2017-05-01T15:32:22Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > You are consistently one of the posters on this Board who comes across as misogynistic and contemptuous of women. This little “joke” and your comments in this thread are only the most recent examples. I point this out on the extremely small chance that you don’t know this about yourself. Several people have said this about AK84, but has anyone come up with any cites to support this claim? I don’t follow The Straight Dope religiously, but most of his questions and comments, as far as I can gather have been on military topics. The whole attack on the fellow sounds like a self-righteous witch hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/79 "2017-05-01T17:13:41Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > Eliot Rodger was on [puahate.org](http://puahate.org), an anti-Pick Up Artist website, he was not in any way associated with any Mens’ Rights movement websites. You sure about that? > [@](#): > > [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/30/elliot-rodger-puahate-forever-alone-reddit-forums) > > Rodger’s manifesto, and the videos he posted to YouTube, were liberally scattered with the lingo of PUA and the Red Pill people. “There is something mentally wrong with the way [women’s] brains are wired,” he wrote, echoing the Red Pill constitution. “They are incapable of reason or thinking rationally.” ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387/80 "2017-05-01T17:17:32Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I can’t think of any issue that MRA’s can point to and say yeah that’s true at its heart. The main issue that MRAs raise that is valid, IMHO, is that there is a double standard between men and women in Western society with regards to things like domestic violence, relationship attitudes, child custody, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/owner-of-r-redpill-outed-as-new-hampshire-politician/785387.md?page=5)