Since no one here is saying that, I am not sure where you are getting this idea.
Some are saying the school bears some responsibility.
Could they? Thats certainly not my experience with the public school system. Without parent consent they have to go through a process that is much like firing a union member including multiple warnings and stepping up the consequences. This was the shooter’s first incident and no matter how audible his cries for help I bet it didn’t reach their written standard for suspension or expulsion.
Particularly given the parents saying that he would be home alone if suspended the school probably thought he would kill himself if he was sent home and was reluctant to force that situation over the parents wishes.
My Dad bought me a single shot .22 target rifle after I passed the safety courses. I think I was 17?
It is not uncommon for hunting parents to buy their kids a shotgun so the kid can go hunting with them.
I have never heard of parents buying their kid a handgun, but I suppose it does happen, although that is illegal.
(Emphasis mine.)
If the note about “hearing voices, won’t stop, help me” isn’t reasonable suspicion, I don’t know what one is.
There is no such side, unless you mean the Death Penalty advocates.
A Bomb. A bomb that would kill a whole classroom is easy to make and would fit into a backpack.
As someone pointed out upthread someplace, the Columbine killers proved that bomb-making isn’t that simple.
Then why are school bombings entirely unheard of in the US while school shootings happen every other week? It’s almost like you’re wrong, a bomb is not nearly as easy to make as grabbing your parents’ guns is.
This anti-gun cite shows 1800?
About searching the backpack- a handgun can be hidden under clothes.
So is this your version of the argument that we should not place any restriction on guns because people who want to kill could do so just as easily by other means?
If that’s the case, you should logically be fine with abolishing guns altogether. Because you can defend your home and hunt elk using all those other methods that can kill just as easily, right?
I have proposed many restrictions on guns, especially laws that prevent criminals from getting their hands on them. I have no idea where you get the idea I am in favor of no restrictions on guns. In Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court identified many restrictions on guns within the 2nd Ad, I follow the rule of law. There are many good gun control laws which are on the books now, or could be passed, which would be Constitutional.
So what point are you trying to make with your hypothetical student bomber?
What would you say was your most feasible suggestion?
A question was asked- with what else could someone kill a lot of kids with that would fit into a backpack. The answer is a Bomb. Those are quite common outside the USA, and the Bath school bombing here in the USA still holds the record.
Ban “straw man dealers”, the primary source of guns for criminals. Wouldn’t even take a law, just a change to ATF regulations defining “dealers”.
Red flag laws that the ACLU approves of.
Most gun transfers between private parties requiring background checks.
However, this is getting close to hijacking this thread into yet another gun control debate. So, no more OK?
All of them damn good ideas.
Sure, instead of hijacking a thread about parents who gave a gun to their kid who then proceeded to kill his fellow students with that gun by talking about guns, let’s focus on the national crisis of teenagers bringing bombs to school in their backpacks.
Which I am not doing-so why are you?
Do you have issues with people answering questions raised in a thread or something?
Isn’t that what we are supposed to do?
If you don’t want to discuss bombs, then drop it.
For completeness, other possible answers to that question would have been “Plutonium” or “antimatter”.
For comparison, here are some of Kip Kinkel’s writings.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kinkel/kip/writings.html
This is the Thurston High School shooter who killed his parents (who bought him guns and whose gun safe code he apparently cracked) and killed and injured his classmates. He’s diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and was sentenced to 111 years with no parole option.