# Oy, this crunchy mothering board is hurting my brain **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 16, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143 "2011-05-16T21:59:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/41 "2011-05-17T16:48:10Z")
I sent you a PM, **Unauthorized Cinnamon** , as I would like to know more about the alternative birthing center. On topic, I am very much a believer in breast milk- I share some of the beliefs in the [del]purifying powers of[/del] antibiotics natural to it, (lol) but I have seen repeatedly on my mom’s intentional community where folks with pinkeye have it cleared up in less than 24 hours with direct from source breast milk applications… I don’t have any beliefs beyond thinking that it is possible, however. Totally confirmation bias, as not part of studies, and I just haven’t ever seen it not work, but have heard of it not working. My mother is rather crunchy, and doesn’t believe in medicine unless we are talking stitches, bone fragments, etc… While I fully believe in Informed Consent Before Action, I am fine with doctors; I just accept that I may need to decline some medical advice if the person I am dealing with is totally 100% medical intervention needed, as I am not 100% that. ---
**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/42 "2011-05-17T16:56:34Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > Though this one is new. Wtf. You must also have missed the breastmilk cheese craze, too. ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/43 "2011-05-17T16:59:03Z")
> [@](#): > > I think maybe it started when my mom told me she blamed herself for the fact that I got juvenile diabetes as a kid. She said she was only able to breastfeed me for a couple of months, and that if she’d been able to do it longer, I would’ve had a better immune system. To that, I say “Pshaw!” But at the same time, all of the current info on breastfeeding says that breastmilk can help prevent things like diabetes. So did my mom “give” me diabetes just because she could only breastfeed a few months? Responding before I’ve read the entire thread- I breastfed my son for twenty months. He almost fully breastfed for more than a year, wasn’t keen on solids. Lots and lots of nursing. He got Type 1 diabetes at 22 months. It’s like lightning- nothing can really prevent it, and guilt about not nursing long enough is unnecessary. He’s three now, and he’s fine. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/44 "2011-05-17T17:03:15Z")
> [@overlyverbose](#): > > You must also have missed the breastmilk cheese craze, too. !! :eek: Well…I \*had \*heard of people using sperm to make scrambled eggs. ---
**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/45 "2011-05-17T17:05:26Z")
Oh- and I made my mom rather upset, apparently, by taking myself off of the breast at about 9 months… I use the cheese thing to rile up my partner, as I do make my own cheese… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/46 "2011-05-17T17:07:35Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > ‘sun tanning erases wrinkles’ :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/47 "2011-05-17T17:07:40Z")
I’m a little dismayed to see how readily “crunchy” and “granola” are employed as epithets against this kind of thinking. I think I agree with every objection and frustration mentioned in the thread, and I know several granola-crunchers who would as well. A few of them _are_ scientists, or a physician. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/48 "2011-05-17T17:09:11Z")
Eating the placenta? I don’t know what is worse. That idea or the fact that idea didn’t make run screaming. I have to take a shower now. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/49 "2011-05-17T17:17:43Z")
This is a good website for keeping up with the latest in breastmilk cheese/placenta eating/craziness parenting goodness: [STFU, Parents](http://stfuparents.tumblr.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/50 "2011-05-17T17:29:29Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > You are looking at a mirror > > It is great to see a doper step out into the world and discover that there are other views equally supported and equally defended. Wake Up Guys and Girls - this is a taste of your own medicine and as this one is distastful to you your stuff is equally distasteful to others. > [@kanicbird](#): > > They would not say your views are equally supported. Again a mirror, and how you view this group is exactly how they view this group. > [@kanicbird](#): > > Yes the irony is pretty much the types of this board help reinforce the views of others. > > Pretty much like any type of religion pushing, the harder you push the more they will resist you > [@kanicbird](#): > > You say you are supported by science, like it’s a trump card, like you are invoking the name of God. > > You are not happy when others invoke their god(s), why should they accept yours? > [@kanicbird](#): > > And as the OP points out they have their facts. The OP accuses them of cherry picking, I would assume many of them would accuse the SD’ers likewise But, dude, this is all just, like, _your opinion_, you know? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/51 "2011-05-17T17:32:46Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Eating the placenta? > > I don’t know what is worse. That idea or the fact that idea didn’t make run screaming. > I have to take a shower now. Sorry, brain bleach doesn’t help. Yeah, momcats eat the placenta. They also eat the kittens’ waste. They do this to keep the nest clean. Humans have other alternatives. We’ve evolved thumbs, and I for one am going to USE my thumbs. [If cats had thumbs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CcxJQq1x8), well, I’m sure that they’d be happy to use them too. And NOT necessarily for embroidery. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/52 "2011-05-17T17:33:47Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > ‘sun tanning erases wrinkles’ > [@Ludovic](#): > > :eek: 'Cause the sun is all natural and stuff. Or ancestors walked around naked in the sun eating green stuff and brown stuff and dirt and we should do the same to have beautiful, youthful skin. I blame [Victoria’s Secret](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1353581/Gisele-Bundchen-angers-cancer-experts-saying-sun-cream-poison.html) for this world view. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/53 "2011-05-17T17:41:50Z")
I’m not a parent but I do have to go along with the chi stuff, I have no desire to ever pierce my clitoral hood. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/54 "2011-05-17T17:45:24Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > 'Cause the sun is all natural and stuff. Or ancestors walked around naked in the sun eating green stuff and brown stuff and dirt and we should do the same to have beautiful, youthful skin. I blame [Victoria’s Secret](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1353581/Gisele-Bundchen-angers-cancer-experts-saying-sun-cream-poison.html) for this world view. Our ancestors were also dead by thirty. Re:Eating placentas. If the moms want to do it then they should do it the same way animals do, by chowing down on it raw while giving birth. Then we’ll see who’s hardcore or not. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/55 "2011-05-17T17:45:57Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Eating the placenta? > > I don’t know what is worse. That idea or the fact that idea didn’t make run screaming. > I have to take a shower now. It goes great with granola. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/56 "2011-05-17T17:50:07Z")
I think if you stayed on that board much longer, come summer solstice you would have found yourself inside a large pregnant woman statue made of wicker and smelling smoke. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/57 "2011-05-17T17:53:30Z")
Just wait until you tell them that you had your child declawed. Man, you wouldn’t believe the fuss. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/58 "2011-05-17T18:02:27Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > I’m not a parent but I do have to go along with the chi stuff, I have no desire to ever pierce my clitoral hood. Well I guess I’ve completely thrown my chi out of whack! Why did no one warn me? I have a few friends who are more granola than I am. We simply don’t talk about parenting things, because otherwise we get along quite well. I used to visit one parenting website more or less local to me (that is, the majority of mothers on it lived in the same area as it was intended) and just faded off of it for similar reasons.. Never felt I had much in common with them. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/59 "2011-05-17T19:12:52Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > I’m a little dismayed to see how readily “crunchy” and “granola” are employed as epithets against this kind of thinking. I think I agree with every objection and frustration mentioned in the thread, and I know several granola-crunchers who would as well. A few of them _are_ scientists, or a physician. That’s the thing - the crunchy is the part I’m looking for, but it came with a side of crazy. And it does seem this particular kind of crazy coincides with crunchy a lot. But I embrace the crunchy! Here is how crunchy I am: Natural childbirth outside the hospital Exclusive breastfeeding for 6mos Child led weaning Baby led solids Cloth diapers Pro-bedsharing Attachment parenting For those wondering about the placenta thing, the reasoning goes that animals do it, and that the placenta contains iron and hormones, which will replenish what your body needs and prevent post-partum depression. And people generally have it cooked or dried, then ground up and put in capsules, to take like pills. I agree, it would be way more hardcore (and actually probably preserve the hormones better if that’s the goal) to just bite into that bloody bag of goo, like sheep and stuff do. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143/60 "2011-05-17T19:52:49Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > For those wondering about the placenta thing, the reasoning goes that animals do it, and that the placenta contains iron and hormones, which will replenish what your body needs and prevent post-partum depression. . Animals also kill and eat their babies when they’re stressed. They also quite often abandon them to die, or just kill them, if they’re sickly or have an obvious defect. What the hell does “animals do it” have to do with anything? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oy-this-crunchy-mothering-board-is-hurting-my-brain/582143.md?page=4)