# P\*ss-drinkin' bully (karma's wonderful)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 17, 2010, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961 "2010-11-17T09:55:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/21 "2010-11-17T17:59:00Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> I’ve deduced the same thing from probably the same websites, and, yeah, what you said.

I’m glad I’m not the only one looking at those sites.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/22 "2010-11-17T18:01:36Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Wow. That’s fucked.

I agree. Too many people swipe each other’s sodas these days.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/23 "2010-11-17T18:06:41Z")

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Hey, there’s no law against carrying around a bottle of your own piss in your backpack. But there are laws against going into someone’s backpack, stealing something from it, and drinking its contents.

And by the way, it’s unlikely that the piss harmed the bully in any way.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/24 "2010-11-17T18:08:20Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I agree. Too many people swipe each other’s sodas these days.

… and, in this case, hot Toddys.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/25 "2010-11-17T18:30:13Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> And by the way, it’s unlikely that the piss harmed the bully in any way.

Well, it’ll hurt his pride when all the kids call the bully a piss drinker.😛

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/26 "2010-11-17T19:06:22Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Provided it’s not being shot from a penis, that would be a “No.”

You’ve never heard of “golden showers”?  
Whatever happened to good old fashioned Methalene Blue?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/27 "2010-11-17T19:48:42Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> You’ve never heard of “golden showers”?  
> Whatever happened to good old fashioned Methalene Blue?

Blue showers? That’s a little TOO kinky for me.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/28 "2010-11-17T22:09:30Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Bully takes (steals) bottle from backpack and drinks contents, which turns out to be piss.
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> How would this even go to court?
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> What if I was storing ethylene glycol in a Mountain Dew bottle in my car and someone took it and drank it. Would I be charged with murder?

In the US you would be. You would have to relabel it. Well involuntary manslaughter.

If I were Todd’s parents I’d point out to Brian’s parents that they will be the neighborhood pariah if word gets out. Unless Brian can prove that Todd offered him the drink then he’s pissing into the wind on this one.

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**Author:** ![Kilmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@Kilmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilmore)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/29 "2010-11-22T02:26:50Z")

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Probably the big problem would be if the bullying was not brought up to the school authorities. If it was and nothing was done, things might go in Todd’s direction.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/30 "2010-11-22T02:51:43Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> … and, in this case, hot Toddys.

That’s wonderful.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/31 "2010-11-22T06:45:36Z")

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Would this be a “pee” defense?  
Seriously, are thieves entitled to be safe , when consuming stuff they have stolen?

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/32 "2010-11-22T15:36:29Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Would this be a “pee” defense?  
> Seriously, are thieves entitled to be safe , when consuming stuff they have stolen?

Yes, just as you are not allowed to set traps around your house to injure burglars. So, if someone is regularly stealing your lunch at work, you can’t bring a lunch laced with enough poison to kill someone, and leave it where a thief, or a person innocently mistaking your lunch for his/hers, can eat it and die. Where you draw the line is not really clear, but adding a large helping of chili powder to your tuna sandwich is safe: the thief will suffer, but won’t be seriously hurt by it. I suspect that putting urine into a soft-drink bottle is on the safe side.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/33 "2010-11-22T15:47:25Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> Yes, just as you are not allowed to set traps around your house to injure burglars. So, if someone is regularly stealing your lunch at work, you can’t bring a lunch laced with enough poison to kill someone, and leave it where a thief, or a person innocently mistaking your lunch for his/hers, can eat it and die. Where you draw the line is not really clear, but adding a large helping of chili powder to your tuna sandwich is safe: the thief will suffer, but won’t be seriously hurt by it. I suspect that putting urine into a soft-drink bottle is on the safe side.

So what happens if a burglar breaks into your home, and is busy rifling through the silverware-when your pet Rottweiler comes upon him-and takes a chunk out of his ass?

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**Author:** ![Yarster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/7c8e57/32.png) [@Yarster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yarster)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/34 "2010-11-22T15:49:18Z")

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If the contents were non-toxic, and really urine falls into that category, then I don’t see the bully having any kind of a case, especially if he really did have to go into a kid’s backpack to get it. If it was a case that the kid left it somewhere that the bully would find it, knowing he would drink it, that might be a different story.

Honestly, I would expect that the bully would beat the crap out of the kid, and wouldn’t tell anyone due to embarrassment, thus no one would find out.

When I was in college, we had a mysterious moocher who was always eating our food. At the time, there were four of us living in the apartment. Three of us were friends, and one of us was assigned to the apartment by the school, so clearly he was the source. This fourth guy also had random friends over all the time, so if it wasn’t him, it was safe to say it was one of his friends. One item that seemed to disappear in record time were a snack that was called ‘cajun sticks’ - little hot dried french fry things I would buy. When it really became a problem, I took my roommate’s clear antibacterial soap and painted the many of the remaining sticks with it to form a clear soupy shell. Guess what, they never disappeared again after that.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/35 "2010-11-22T15:49:27Z")

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Just remembered this one…in an old “Farside” cartoon-the white-coated scientists are having lunch in the lab-and some guy is drinking from a beaker. Then another scientist breaks in and yells" Drat-who took my bubonic plague sample"!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/36 "2010-11-22T15:53:30Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> So what happens if a burglar breaks into your home, and is busy rifling through the silverware-when your pet Rottweiler comes upon him-and takes a chunk out of his ass?

I’m pretty sure that if guard dogs were illegal, the word would have gotten out by now. A guard dog isn’t a booby trap.

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/37 "2010-11-22T18:46:23Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that if guard dogs were illegal, the word would have gotten out by now. A guard dog isn’t a booby trap.

that might depend on the dog, I had a dog for a while that would actually stay silent so he could sneak up on people…he was to smart for a dog.

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**Author:** ![Teacake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Teacake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teacake)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/38 "2010-11-22T19:26:51Z")

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> [@Wallenstein](#):
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> We do have Mountain Dew - they sell it in Tesco and Sainsburys and lots of garage forecourts (it’s been rebranded as an energy drink).

It hasn’t been rebranded, it’s a different product. And it’s rank. I was so disappointed. I’ve never understood why Mountain Dew didn’t sell well enough here to keep it on the market.

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**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/39 "2010-11-22T20:36:25Z")

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> [@Wallenstein](#):
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> I’m not sure where this took place, but I gather from comments it’s in the UK.

The usage of the words “mountain dew” and “principal” indicate otherwise. We don’t have Mountain Dew (at least not commonly - it may be available in a few places), and the head of a school is the headmaster.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/p-ss-drinkin-bully-karmas-wonderful/560961/40 "2010-11-23T17:12:30Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Would this be a “pee” defense?  
> Seriously, are thieves entitled to be safe , when consuming stuff they have stolen?

“If you didn’t see him piss, you must dismiss”.

We need another Johnny Cochrane.

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