# PA Democratic debate tonight **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 16, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621 "2008-04-16T18:37:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/21 "2008-04-16T23:15:49Z")
[QUOTE=Phlosphr] I’m not so sure…I think she’s going to have to show that she will hold a united party and thus stand up on a stage somewhere, sometime showing she supports Obama. She’s not going to want to lose too much face by doing anything too drastic. I don;t think, but I wouldn’t put it past her. [/QUOTE] I just don’t see her thinking past herself ATM – it’s personal. The Clinton Legacy, made or broken. Can’t fault her for being passionate, I do for being thoughtless… ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/22 "2008-04-16T23:35:30Z")
Can someone give me a time and channel for this spectacle? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/23 "2008-04-16T23:38:48Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder] Can someone give me a time and channel for this spectacle? [/QUOTE] CBS, 8:00 EDT/7:00 CDT ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/24 "2008-04-16T23:41:07Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] CBS, 8:00 EDT/7:00 CDT [/QUOTE] thanks ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/25 "2008-04-16T23:47:17Z")
In the meantime, [here’s something inspirational](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyhIBXNfqMA) to get you fired up for debate-watching. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/26 "2008-04-16T23:54:07Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Lendervedder] thanks [/QUOTE] Quick! Switch channels: [**Democrats debate live on ABC at 8 p.m. ET. A last chance to settle scores before Pa. primary**](http://abcnews.go.com/) **Dio’s** just being deceitful as is the nature of many an Obamamite. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/27 "2008-04-16T23:58:02Z")
Sorry. ABC, not CBS. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/28 "2008-04-17T00:07:03Z")
A TV timeout already? What is this, the Final Four? ---
**Author:** ![liirogue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@liirogue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liirogue)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/29 "2008-04-17T00:10:44Z")
Is it possible to watch this dang thing online, or is it only on TV? I’m just running in circles on ABC’s website ---
**Author:** ![liirogue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@liirogue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liirogue)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/30 "2008-04-17T00:35:24Z")
Wow, they both dropped the ball on that one. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/31 "2008-04-17T00:44:09Z")
Hill’s digging. Surprised? Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/32 "2008-04-17T00:48:18Z")
Just a thread nitpick: If we’re going to comment on something said during the debate, could we clarify what it is we’re commenting on? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anomalous\_Reading](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Anomalous\_Reading](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anomalous_Reading)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/33 "2008-04-17T00:48:41Z")
This format, added to the frequent allegations against Obama are really tipping the scales… I wish Obama would point on (on the religion thing) that it’s no secret that when times get tough, the religious do look to God for hope and comfort - and even a new job. It’s not a horrid thing. I think those taking offense may very well relate to that point. But that’s a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/34 "2008-04-17T00:48:59Z")
Well, I hope the voters weren’t planning to hear the candidates debate the issues. I guess this debate’s audience is really the superdelegates. Can they watch this and not be thinking that this thing has got to come to a close soon? ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/35 "2008-04-17T00:50:07Z")
[QUOTE=RedFury] Hill’s digging. Surprised? Anyone? [/QUOTE] Are you kidding…she’s got a shovel and is throwing it over her back - shes digging deep. Obama’s doing just fine - doing well in fact. Love his response about people he is aquainted with…Does HRC believe people are that stupid that she keeps digging? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/36 "2008-04-17T00:50:42Z")
That whole William Ayers thing is such a steaming pile. I’m noticing that not a single genuine issue has yet been touched on. Not one question about Iraq or the economy. Just a gotchya ya marathon. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/37 "2008-04-17T00:52:37Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] That whole William Ayers thing is such a steaming pile. I’m noticing that not a single genuine issue has yet been touched on. Not one question about Iraq or the economy. Just a gotchya ya marathon. [/QUOTE] It’s what get’s the ratings man. I hope they move on too… ---
**Author:** ![liirogue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@liirogue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liirogue)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/38 "2008-04-17T00:54:54Z")
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I don’t think Obama handled the pastor thing well, and Clinton positively floundered with her Bosnia answer. And after 45 minutes, they have yet to touch on an actual national issue. What is this, [TMZ.com](http://TMZ.com)? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/39 "2008-04-17T00:55:04Z")
[QUOTE=Richard Parker] …I guess this debate’s audience is really the superdelegates. Can they watch this and not be thinking that this thing has got to come to a close soon? [/QUOTE] Not seeing it that way myself. ‘Ratings’ is the target audience. No further comment on that particular segment for reasons already well-known. Rather scripted as well. Hope it improves… ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621/40 "2008-04-17T00:55:07Z")
Obama’s doing pretty well, I think. He’s showing some fatigue in the pace of his delivery, and I can tell he’s tired of being on the defensive, but he hasn’t made any holes deeper. But every time Hillary opens her mouth, she proves Obama’s points about the race being about trivial distractions. He’s setting himself up to be above the fray and Hillary seems to be more than willing to push him up there. She needs to stop using every question to lambast Obama. That flag question was ridiculous. He deserves an award just for not rolling his eyes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pa-democratic-debate-tonight/445621.md?page=3)