# Pachabel's Canon in .. uhm... guitar

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 25, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808 "2006-03-25T01:05:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/41 "2006-03-26T07:23:34Z")

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> [@NoCoolUserName](#):
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> [hijack]  
> My (7-year-old) daughter was looking over my shoulder while I was watching some of the lick links here. She said “only boys can play guitar.” I’m not finding any instances of women playing–could somebody find such an example for me? Thanks!  
> [/hijack]

Well, there’s this bunch:

> **[Log In or Sign Up to View](https://www.facebook.com/kittiepage)**
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> See posts, photos and more on Facebook.

😉

[sub]Um, well, I actually kind of like 'em …

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/42 "2006-03-26T07:27:22Z")

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Preview, Rik, preview!

Anyway, your daughter might be interested in this company:

> **[Daisy Rock Girl Guitars](https://www.daisyrock.com/)**
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> We are the only place for guitars for girls, guitars, clothing, picks, straps, gig bags, electric guitars, acoustic guitars, ukulele, pink sparkle, blue sparkle, purple, girl t-shirts, girl power.

It’s a company run by women, that specifically makes guitars to appeal to girls and encourage them to take up the instrument. From their FAQ:

> [@](#):
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> **What makes Daisy Rock guitars different from other standard size/shape guitars?**  
> For starters, our guitars have slimmer necks than standard guitars. This makes for easier playing for people with smaller hands. Our guitars are also lightweight so they won’t overpower you if you have a small build. Another really great feature of our guitars is the contour in the body design. The guitars are extremely comfortable and lie perfectly across our bodies. Not to mention that they sound and look great on stage! Overall Daisy Rock guitars are designed specifically for girls and are a perfect fit for female guitarists.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/43 "2006-03-26T08:13:46Z")

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> [@NoCoolUserName](#):
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> There are plenty of women guitar players in my collection–I need videos to convince a 7-year-old that it actually IS a woman playing. 🙂

Let me submit [Joan Jett](http://music.yahoo.com/ar-252556---Joan-Jett), Lita Ford, Bonnie Raitt, Melissa Etheridge, Ani DiFranco, Sheryl Crow, Tracy Chapman, Vixen, Dixie Chicks, and the Indigo Girls all are female. I second [Kittie](http://music.yahoo.com/ar-294887---Kittie). Don’t forget [Charo](http://www.charo.com/), she is a virtuoso and has been around a long time. There is a video section on that site with her playing.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/44 "2006-03-26T08:27:12Z")

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Adding, you’ll probably want to preview the Charo videos, I didn’t watch them before posting. There are some not as spicey ones.

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**Author:** ![Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@Only\_Mostly\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Only_Mostly_Dead)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/45 "2006-03-26T15:02:04Z")

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> [@Phase42](#):
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> [http://www.daisyrock.com/](http://www.daisyrock.com/)

Mmm…

“Mingle with Lisa Loeb” contest… 😃

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/46 "2006-03-27T01:54:28Z")

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> [@edwino](#):
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> (snip)Jake Shimabukuro, Charlie Hunter, Jimi, John McLaughlin, some of those guys – nah, it is like they are on a whole other planet. (end snip)

I saw that video of Jake S playing the uke a while back, but I never thought he was actually somebody famous. It blew me away then and it blows me away now. Fantastic arrangement.

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**Author:** ![Tarrsk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@Tarrsk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarrsk)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/47 "2006-03-27T02:40:17Z")

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> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> Let me submit [Joan Jett](http://music.yahoo.com/ar-252556---Joan-Jett), Lita Ford, Bonnie Raitt, Melissa Etheridge, Ani DiFranco, Sheryl Crow, Tracy Chapman, Vixen, Dixie Chicks, and the Indigo Girls all are female. I second [Kittie](http://music.yahoo.com/ar-294887---Kittie). Don’t forget [Charo](http://www.charo.com/), she is a virtuoso and has been around a long time. There is a video section on that site with her playing.

All this talk of female guitarists and nobody has yet mentioned the all-female Sleater-Kinney, one of the best bands of the last ten years, and who rock harder than any other five male-led bands combined?

[Here’s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYAitpi6Dhg&search=sleaterkinney) a clip from when they played on Letterman.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/48 "2006-03-27T12:25:46Z")

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> [@NoCoolUserName](#):
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> And to return to the discussion, another entry in the [Pachabel’s Canon](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9to1auUNTk) sweepstakes.

Not at all taken by that guy, but then again I thought the first guy/gal was brilliant (heck, I’d buy that arrangement if there was a CD…) so my judgment may be somewhat suspect. 😃

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/49 "2006-03-27T17:44:20Z")

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> [@NoCoolUserName](#):
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> [hijack]  
> My (7-year-old) daughter was looking over my shoulder while I was watching some of the lick links here. She said “only boys can play guitar.” I’m not finding any instances of women playing–could somebody find such an example for me? Thanks!  
> [/hijack]

Errrm, I don’t think most of the women posted by others here would be very insipiring to a youngster since they’re old enough to be her grandmother and play music I doubt she has any interest in.

I think Kaki King might be much more appealing, since she’s young and got a distinctive style. Here’s a youtube link:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_wsFeXWc82Y/hqdefault.jpg " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wsFeXWc82Y)

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/50 "2006-03-28T00:40:36Z")

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> [@hellotherepoodle](#):
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> Errrm, I don’t think most of the women posted by others here would be very insipiring to a youngster since they’re old enough to be her grandmother and play music I doubt she has any interest in.
> 
> I think Kaki King might be much more appealing, since she’s young and got a distinctive style. Here’s a youtube link:
> 
> [http://youtube.com/watch?v=\_wsFeXWc82Y](http://youtube.com/watch?v=_wsFeXWc82Y)

Kaki King is brilliant. I saw her perform live a few months back, and was absolutely blown away. Plus she has an adorable stage presence- really funny and whimsical between songs, graceful and precise while playing. Can’t believe I forgot to mention her. 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/51 "2006-03-28T03:59:19Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> I’ve never seen anything like that technique. How does he get any volume out of the guitar without picking or strumming?

I’m a little late in answering this, but the answer is you can, if you just tap hard enough. When you tap the string hard enough, it causes it to vibrate and produce noise. It’s obviously not nearly as loud as strumming so he most likely has his pickup/mic turned up on his guitar, but this is the basic idea behind tapping, something the guy in the first video does. It’s sort of like playing the piano in that you use both hands. Turn up your compression and distortion a bit and your hammer-ons and pull-offs will sound quite clearly. If you have a guitar nearby, just try tapping the strings with your fingertips firmly. You’ll hear it sound out.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/52 "2006-03-29T00:24:23Z")

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> [@audiobottle](#):
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> I’m a little late in answering this, but the answer is you can, if you just tap hard enough.

Eddie Van Halen created that style of playing in rock. If you listen to anything from the first couple of Van Halen albums you will hear that technique all over the place.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/53 "2006-03-29T00:31:37Z")

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> [@hellotherepoodle](#):
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> Errrm, I don’t think most of the women posted by others here would be very insipiring to a youngster since they’re old enough to be her grandmother and play music I doubt she has any interest in.
> 
> I think Kaki King might be much more appealing, since she’s young and got a distinctive style. Here’s a youtube link:
> 
> [http://youtube.com/watch?v=\_wsFeXWc82Y](http://youtube.com/watch?v=_wsFeXWc82Y)

I was not familiar with her before I saw this post. I saw that video and although she’s quite talented I have to say her technique is a gimmick. Does she play everything like that? This is also a highly produced video with lots of cuts.

[The Great Kat](http://www.seigle.net/extraclick.php?u=http://www.greatkat.com) is a killer player though her whole shtick is too edgy for me (wow, talk about gimmicks). I’ve put an extra click in because it plays music when you bring the site up, and some of the images are borderline.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/54 "2006-03-29T00:52:32Z")

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> [@audiobottle](#):
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> I’m a little late in answering this, but the answer is you can, if you just tap hard enough. When you tap the string hard enough, it causes it to vibrate and produce noise. It’s obviously not nearly as loud as strumming so he most likely has his pickup/mic turned up on his guitar, but this is the basic idea behind tapping, something the guy in the first video does. It’s sort of like playing the piano in that you use both hands. Turn up your compression and distortion a bit and your hammer-ons and pull-offs will sound quite clearly. If you have a guitar nearby, just try tapping the strings with your fingertips firmly. You’ll hear it sound out.

Oh, I know you can get sound out of tapping, but it seemed like he was getting nearly as much volume from the tapping as he was from the strumming. Just seemed odd to me. Maybe he had someone sitting at a mixing console pulling the gain down whenever he started strumming.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/55 "2006-03-30T02:26:43Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Oh, I know you can get sound out of tapping, but it seemed like he was getting nearly as much volume from the tapping as he was from the strumming. Just seemed odd to me. Maybe he had someone sitting at a mixing console pulling the gain down whenever he started strumming.

You use a compressor/expander, which puts out a level amplitude regardless of the amplitude of the input signal. [One example.](http://www.activemusician.com/market/items/EM_FX84.asp?sn=10&c=DAC5EDB359DD4FD5923BCABD9203FD2D&s=1&nav=md-it)

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/56 "2006-04-03T04:04:47Z")

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> [@Tarrsk](#):
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> Kaki King is brilliant. I saw her perform live a few months back, and was absolutely blown away. Plus she has an adorable stage presence- really funny and whimsical between songs, graceful and precise while playing. Can’t believe I forgot to mention her. 🙂

Is this the same Kaki King I saw tonight on the La Guitara tour? She had the stage presence of a newt.

And her guitar playing was nowhere near as good as on the youtube video. She sounded like the second-rate Preston Reed imitator she’s often tagged as.

But.

She played a few songs on lap steel with loops that were as terrific as anything I’ve ever heard in concert. It was like hearing a new type of music. She says she has a new album coming out this summer. If that music is on it, everybody in this thread ought to run out and buy copies for them and all their friends.

BTW, for the poster who wanted female guitarists: the [La Guitara](http://www.pattylarkin.com/laguitara/artists.html) project and album is designed to feature female guitarists of every musical type. Unfortunately, the current year’s tour ended tonight, but will pick up with a variety of artists next year.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/57 "2006-04-03T04:26:09Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Oh, I know you can get sound out of tapping, but it seemed like he was getting nearly as much volume from the tapping as he was from the strumming. Just seemed odd to me. Maybe he had someone sitting at a mixing console pulling the gain down whenever he started strumming.

When I tap (which is not often, since I’m more of a bass player than a guitarist) I don’t just press the string straight down and lift my finger straight up. Rather, I press down and then make an ever-so-slight sideways motion as I release the string. In effect, I’m still “picking” the string, but with my fingertip rather than the pick. This creates nearly as much volume as my normal picking.

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Sorry, Pachelbel’s Canon has been forever ruined for me through its use in _Testament_, the Jane Alexander directed film about a small town following WWIII. They play this music while the three surviving characters are having a birthday celebration eating perhaps the last bit of cake left in all of Northern California. The music brings back every depressing sequence in that film.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pachabels-canon-in-uhm-guitar/349808/59 "2006-04-04T04:02:04Z")

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Hmm, sort of off-topic but along the lines of interesting music performances: in [“A Cello Rondo,”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBTbC6ImCVo) Ethan Winer performs an instrumental consisting of 37 separate cello parts recorded on 23 tracks using 37 plug-in effects. I liked this music so much that I put the MP3 on my iPod. 🙂

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