# Pacifists and world politics = Saddam Husseins

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pacifists-and-world-politics-saddam-husseins/209669>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 26, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pacifists-and-world-politics-saddam-husseins/209669 "2003-10-26T15:55:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pacifists-and-world-politics-saddam-husseins/209669/81 "2003-11-11T14:14:05Z")

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> _ **Beagle** sez:_
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> It’s a debate tactic…
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> I take your arguments and deconstruct them. I reverse them. I leave out some facts to let people draw the political conclusions based on no facts that they always do…

There’s a name for that, but I forget what it is at the moment. At any rate, I’m sure it’s a _far_ more intellectually honest method of debate than you’ll find from them danged self-indulgent Yur-peens.  
\*[sub]You’re right, **'possum stalker** ; it IS possible to choke on your own sarcasm…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pacifists-and-world-politics-saddam-husseins/209669/82 "2003-11-11T15:32:43Z")

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You know, that kind of rings a bell. Something about demonstrating dishonest debate tactics as an object lesson, as an example to lesser minds on improper conduct.

Oh, the perfidious French! Had it not been for thier chicanery and diplomatic skullduggery, the entire world would have joined in a unanimous chorus of glad approval for the US. They would have been clamoring to shower us with troops and money, seeing clearly to utter moral rectitude of our cause. But for the French.

Were it not for thier invention of oral sex, I would be hard pressed to forgive them.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pacifists-and-world-politics-saddam-husseins/209669/83 "2003-11-11T20:49:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Beagle \*  
> \*\*I’ve given up on them. We’ll see you guys on the back end of Shari’a Law. Enjoy. \*\*

I’m sure that all of Yurp weeps for the loss of your support, dishonest debating tactics and all – isn’t there a word for that? Just one last question – if France was providing arms to support Mr. secular socialist alternative to the Mullahs Saddam Hussein, weren’t they aiding in the great struggle against Shari’ a Laws?

PS: Are you sure you don’t want to borrow my internet tag with the word ‘Cognitive’ thrown in front of it?

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**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2003, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pacifists-and-world-politics-saddam-husseins/209669/84 "2003-11-11T23:10:06Z")

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I hear the French have no rights, and they spit on pictures of Ayn Rand. Also, they eat brie n’ infants!

Not really! Tee-hee. No facts. Debate technique. I win again. Time to take my ball and go home.

Yes, it’s hypocrisy season alright.

Before this thread dries out and blows away like the goat turd it is, I’d like to take a special moment to recognize sterling efforts by **jjimm** , **elucidator** , and **dissonance** in the fight against the forces of asininity. Huzzah!

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