# Packers' Johnny Jolly suspended for 2010 season.

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**Created:** [July 16, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-johnny-jolly-suspended-for-2010-season/546968 "2010-07-16T22:20:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-johnny-jolly-suspended-for-2010-season/546968/21 "2010-07-28T14:53:53Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No. Fred Smoot and Bryant McKinnie were both fined one game check each by the NFL (which precluded the Vikings from taking action against them).
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> McKinnie got a seven year contract extension the next week. 😃

So, given that, the Pack just pulled far into the lead.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-johnny-jolly-suspended-for-2010-season/546968/22 "2010-07-28T15:00:36Z")

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The Vikings did instutute an allegedly tough “Code of Conduct” policy after that, and the Vikings have been relatively scandal free since then, except for Bryant McKinnie’s escapades and the Williams Wall thing.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-johnny-jolly-suspended-for-2010-season/546968/23 "2010-07-28T15:04:51Z")

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Did the Williamses appeal the initial ruling that they’d have to serve their suspensions?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-johnny-jolly-suspended-for-2010-season/546968/24 "2010-07-28T15:39:44Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Did the Williamses appeal the initial ruling that they’d have to serve their suspensions?

Yes, and they’ve managed to keep it stayed for like two years now. It’s complicated, but a lot of it has to do with a peculiar state labor law in Minnesota which a judge has ruled makes the NFL’s rules unenforcable in the state. Or something like that. I don’t know exactly. All I know is they’ve got good lawyers. I heard they’ve even been talking about maybe retiring after this season, which could possibly mean they will have been able to stall this suspension for literally the rest of thir careers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-johnny-jolly-suspended-for-2010-season/546968/25 "2010-07-28T15:45:13Z")

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I can see Pat Williams retiring; he’s going to be 38 by the end of this season. Kevin Williams is only going to be turning 30, though, and he ought to be able to play at least two or three more seasons after this one.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-johnny-jolly-suspended-for-2010-season/546968/26 "2010-07-28T15:48:08Z")

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It might only be Pat that’s talking about retiring. I know at least one of them was.

Incidentally, both of those guys were on the Love Boat too.

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