# Packers v. Bears: NFC Championship Game.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 21, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478 "2011-01-21T18:18:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/61 "2011-01-23T20:25:10Z")

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Aaaaand the Packers have a injury, with Clifton going out. We really need him back.

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**Author:** ![UncleNito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7cd45c/32.png) [@UncleNito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleNito)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/62 "2011-01-23T20:28:00Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Aaaaand the Packers have a injury, with Clifton going out. We really need him back.

QFT.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/63 "2011-01-23T20:31:29Z")

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Hopefully we’ll see Peppers continue to take advantage of that ham and egger subbing for Clifton and keep causing physical pain to Rodgers.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/64 "2011-01-23T20:34:47Z")

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What’s with the Bears game plan of doing nothing but handing it to Forte? Do they intend to actually put some _effort_ into their offense or what? The Packers have a dogshit secondary. Throw the fucking ball.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/65 "2011-01-23T20:41:18Z")

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Wasn’t there a Bond villain named Hamanegger? I think that Christopher Lee played him.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/66 "2011-01-23T20:43:09Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The Packers have a dogshit secondary.

I also love your ability to not learn a damn thing and repeat the same crap over and over, despite it being wrong.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/67 "2011-01-23T20:44:55Z")

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They do have a dogshit secondary. Fact, not opinion.

Note to Mike Matz: Stop handing off to Forte on EVERY FUCKING PLAY!

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/68 "2011-01-23T20:46:23Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Note to Mike Matz: Stop handing off to Forte on EVERY FUCKING PLAY!

Words I _never_ thought I’d see together.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/69 "2011-01-23T20:47:19Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> They do have a dogshit secondary. Fact, not opinion.

Keep believing it. It might take a few seasons, but eventually it’ll likely be true.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/70 "2011-01-23T20:48:53Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> They do have a dogshit secondary. Fact, not opinion.

The fact is 3 out of 4 of their secondary made the Pro Bowl. The fact is that they had 24 interceptions to only 16 touchdowns, making them one of only 3 teams to have more ints than TDs. The fact is that they are the 5th rated defense against the pass.

The fact is you’re wrong. As usual.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/71 "2011-01-23T20:49:50Z")

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Wow. Urlacher totally just got burned. Badly. That’s embarrassing.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/72 "2011-01-23T20:52:35Z")

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The Bears not being able to stop the run? This is going to be a long game.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/73 "2011-01-23T20:54:00Z")

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Hot diggety dog! 55 yards rushing in just the first quarter and half. Another good drive ending in a touchdown. I still hope Clifton’s stinger gets better.

And no special teams meltdown, still just giving them good field position. Big series for the Bears.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/74 "2011-01-23T20:55:27Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Fact, not opinion.

I’m sure you’re just poking at the group, since you certainly know the difference between the two. However, in case you need to be shown how wrong you are, you can pick between the beginning of the season:  
[Ranking the best secondaries heading into the 2010 season](http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d818c4908&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

…or this week:  
[Fast company: Packers’ secondary boasts speed](http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/113679339.html)

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> The speed [of the secondary] may show up in the statistics: The Packers were fourth in the NFL by allowing only 16 passing touchdowns.
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> And they didn’t give up too many big plays, either. The Packers surrendered eight passes of 40 yards or more, tied for 16th in the league. They were better in a related category - tied for 10th by allowing 44 receptions of 20 yards or more.
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> They have pulled in eight more interceptions than they have allowed touchdowns, a differential that tops the NFL.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/75 "2011-01-23T20:55:43Z")

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Looks like the bad Jay Cutler has showed up this afternoon. Badly overthrew Hester, that looked like an east first.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/76 "2011-01-23T20:57:07Z")

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Badly overthrows Hester again. No, Troy, he wasn’t really open. Bad play.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/77 "2011-01-23T20:58:52Z")

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I wasn’t happy with the way McDaniels handled the whole Cutler situation but then again I was never that impressed with him to begin with. If it’d been my way, Jake the Snake would have been the Denver QB for at least two more years. Some really bad passes out of Cutler so far.

Of course, if I could have it my way, they’d find a way to clone Elway.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/78 "2011-01-23T21:00:18Z")

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Martz is calling a good game on this drive and the O Line is doing better protecting Jay against blitzes. That holding penalty though could hurt.

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**Author:** ![UncleNito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7cd45c/32.png) [@UncleNito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleNito)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/79 "2011-01-23T21:02:53Z")

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Aaand … the Mudpit comes through for the Pack.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/packers-v-bears-nfc-championship-game/568478/80 "2011-01-23T21:03:53Z")

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What an absolute bullshit fucking holding call on Chester Taylor. Christ, I’m tired of seing the blatantly fixed officiating that the Packers get in every single game.

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