# Pagans/Wiccans/Cardmakers, I need a teensy bit of help

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [July 3, 2001, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144 "2001-07-03T23:28:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2001, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/1 "2001-07-03T23:28:10Z")

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Hey! I’ve recently taken up cardmaking. Like, just yesterday.

I want a logo to put on the back of my cards, but I suck at designing things myself. I’m looking for a nice black & white crescent moon & pentacle. One that I can print out a boatload of, cut them out myself, and stick them on the back of a card. Unless someone else has a better idea (this is where the cardmakers wisdom would come in handy!)

I’d like it very much if I could enlist someone to design one for me (because I really like you guys, and it would somehow seem so much more special that way), but if I can’t get that, could someone point me towards a good site with just plain old cut-out-able graphics? I’m not looking for website graphics. Just black and white.

Thanks! 😃

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### Author: ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2001, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/2 "2001-07-03T23:40:10Z")

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geez I suck at drawing (that’s why I buy rubber stamps). if nothing at all else, I have a ton or two of rs mags and catalogs that we can peruse and/or an artistic son (our father who art in Florida, Herbert be his name, who designed my jewelry is very talented, it skipped my generation completely but did hit my son).

So, depending on if you get other offers, there’s always the outs that I’ll be able to come up with (point 3 deduction for clumsy sentence structure )

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/3 "2001-07-04T00:11:17Z")

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I’ve got a veritable horde of such things on my hard drive. Let me look for you and see what I have.

Are you married to that design?

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/4 "2001-07-04T00:54:50Z")

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Well, I just tried to send you some stuff at the address in your profile and it said you didn’t have an addy w/Yahoo.

Where do you want this?

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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/5 "2001-07-04T04:17:57Z")

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Hm. Lemme check my profile & see what it says. My Yahoo address is [Mrstrag767@yahoo.com](mailto:Mrstrag767@yahoo.com). At least, that’s what it was this morning. 😃

Send me what you’e got, **Arden!** I really appreciate it! I have an idea of what I want, but no, I’m not absolutely committed. Oh, I was talking to my mom earlier, asking her if she had anything. I expressed my frustration at not being able to find anything besides web graphics. My mom said, “hey, why don’t you try clipart?”

My reaction: “Clipart? CLIPART? D’OH!”

See, I used to work at a newspaper. In ad services. Before the internet, before computer graphics. When _every-freaking-thing_ was done with clipart. _Real_ clipart, that was in bigass BOOKS made from real PAPER that came from real TREES and if you saw something you liked you actually CLIPPED it! With real SCISSORS! Jesus Christ, I designed the invitations to my first wedding using clipart! But now I’m just SOOOOOOO technologically advanced (with my 56k modem and my 2 gig hard drive) that even though I want to get hip and go retro and MAKE a damn greeting card I can’t remember that the black and white cut-out-able stuff I want is _still_ called clipart! And people still use it! They just use it on their computers now!

Sorry about that. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to go marvel at the technology that is my toaster.

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/6 "2001-07-04T04:29:58Z")

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Ok, babe. I just sent two mails off to Yahoo. We’ll see what happens. If they get bounced, I’ll just slap 'em up on a webpage for you

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/7 "2001-07-04T04:32:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The original message was received at Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:25:54 -0500  
> from [stw-ppp048.cowboy.net](http://stw-ppp048.cowboy.net) [63.171.228.48]
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> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----  
> \<[mailto:Mrstrag767@yahoo.com](mailto:Mrstrag767@yahoo.com)\>  
> (reason: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn’t have a [yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com) account ([mailto:mrstrag767@yahoo.com](mailto:mrstrag767@yahoo.com)) - [mta499.mail.yahoo.com](http://mta499.mail.yahoo.com))
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> ----- Transcript of session follows -----  
> … while talking to [mx2.mail.yahoo.com](http://mx2.mail.yahoo.com).:  
> \>\>\> DATA  
> \<\<\< 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn’t have a [yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com) account ([mailto:mrstrag767@yahoo.com](mailto:mrstrag767@yahoo.com)) - [mta499.mail.yahoo.com](http://mta499.mail.yahoo.com)  
> 554 5.0.0 \<[mailto:Mrstrag767@yahoo.com](mailto:Mrstrag767@yahoo.com)\>… Service unavailable

It’s not working. ☹

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### Author: ![LoverBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@LoverBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoverBoy)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/8 "2001-07-04T04:41:57Z")

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Stick them up on a webpage as I’d like to see them 😃 or e-mail at “[freerideboarder@aol.com](mailto:freerideboarder@aol.com)” (yes, AOL sucks, switching to Sprint Broadband on the 16th :))

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/9 "2001-07-04T04:52:02Z")

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Okay. This is the couple I’ve culled out so far. I’ll stick more up as I sort them out. That last one’s just for fun. 🙂

[Persephone](http://www.angelfire.com/ab2/FrancescaOfAmber/persephone.html)

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### Author: ![bwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@bwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bwk)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/10 "2001-07-04T06:18:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Persephone \*  
> \*\*_Real_ clipart, that was in bigass BOOKS made from real PAPER that came from real TREES and if you saw something you liked you actually CLIPPED it! With real SCISSORS! \*\*

Yes! I know of what you speak. I have seen such things. I have lugged them to and fro. I have gotten papercuts from the pages. Yes, indeed.

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> Sorry about that. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to go marvel at the technology that is my toaster. \*\*

Hee hee hee hee hee… That is too funny.

**Arden Ranger** , I love that last photo. Do you have any other great redhead pictures like that? I’m a redhead… so I collect pretty pictures like that.

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/11 "2001-07-04T06:33:31Z")

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Probably. 🙂

I’ll add them to that page as I find them.

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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/12 "2001-07-04T14:46:56Z")

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Why, **Arden,** those pictures may as well be photographs of me, they are so stunningly lovely. 😉

MWAAAAAAHAHAHA!

My email seemed to be working today, and I did get one pic you sent. And it rocked, indeed! Loved it! Thanks! 😃

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### Author: ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/13 "2001-07-04T14:48:49Z")

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And here I’m **still** waiting for my damn coasters…

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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/14 "2001-07-04T14:51:35Z")

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Hey! I’ve been busy! Doing…um…other stuff! Yeah! That’s it!

note to self: make Xploder’s coasters…someday…soon…

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/15 "2001-07-04T15:14:11Z")

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So, do I need to keep looking for type clip art for your cards or will one of the B&W ones from that page work?

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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/16 "2001-07-04T16:43:18Z")

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Page? What page?

There was only one picture in the email. Unless I’m a great big doofus and missed something. Which I am far more inclined to believe. 😃

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### Author: ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/17 "2001-07-04T16:47:12Z")

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[sub] psst, **Persephone** look up, **Arden** posted some on a web page for you here [/sub]

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### Author: ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/18 "2001-07-04T16:56:37Z")

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Cristi, once you get a design down, I am pretty sure you can get a stamp made. Check with your local stamping store…if they don’t make them, they may know of somewhere you can get it done. My friend even makes her own. I haven’t been brave enough to try that yet.

And…welcome to the wonderful world of card making! It is like a disease…but fun fun FUN!

Scotti

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### Author: ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/19 "2001-07-04T17:01:03Z")

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[sub]pssst…wring…I looked at those, but they were all in color and just for fun. I’m just an ordinary doof, not a really huge doof…okay, maybe I am a really huge doof, but I’m not an idi…okay, I think I’ll stop now…[/sub]

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### Author: ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2001, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pagans-wiccans-cardmakers-i-need-a-teensy-bit-of-help/71144/20 "2001-07-04T17:21:10Z")

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[sub]ok, sorry **Persephone** [/sub]

**Scotticher** You too!?!!?!! wow. Of course, if **Persephone** wants to go to a real stamp store, she’ll have to travel a ways. There’s one here in Lansing, but last time I was there, they have supplies and stuff, but the stamps they tend to carry range all the way from ‘country-cute’ to ‘homespun-cute’ alll the way up to ‘put-me-in-a-diabetic-coma-cute’. But, OTOH, Lansing also has ‘moi’ with, like I said, several thousand stamps, and many, many catalogs and mags to peruse.

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