# Pakistani General: Bin Laden can have safe haven if he promises to be a good boy **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 6, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pakistani-general-bin-laden-can-have-safe-haven-if-he-promises-to-be-a-good-boy/371692 "2006-09-06T20:22:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pakistani-general-bin-laden-can-have-safe-haven-if-he-promises-to-be-a-good-boy/371692/21 "2006-09-08T11:55:13Z")
> [@luc](#): > > Because we don’t fucking dare. Pakistan is tenuous at best, it is a military dictatorship controlled by the same time-honored methods employed by so many. Musharaff maintains his grasp but the shit could blow up in his face any minute. I wonder if this indicates an acknowledgement on Pakistan’s part that the Taliban is regaining significant influence, especially near the Waziristan border area, so they need to make some concessions? And/or wariness about recently increasing coziness and nuke permission deals between the US and India? Pakistan certainly seemed to be talking, and fighting, **much** tougher on terrorists back in late 2001 than they are now. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pakistani-general-bin-laden-can-have-safe-haven-if-he-promises-to-be-a-good-boy/371692/22 "2006-09-08T15:27:16Z")
[QUOTE=David Simmons] But John. You are saying that Bush is only doing what any Democrat would do. [/QUOTE] No, that’s not quite what I’m saying-- I’m just saying that I understand why the Dems aren’t up in arms about this. There isn’t a good solution. What Bush is doing may not be the best solution, but pissing Pakistan off by trying to isloate them will just turn them into a bigger Iran, with nukes. > [@](#): > > What does that do to his claim to be more effective than the Democrats? You’ll have to ask Bush that. > [@RTF](#): > > Drudge, NewsMax, WorldNetDummy, and the right-wing blogs aren’t exactly credible sources. Hey, you’re the blog-hound, not me. I don’t frequent any of them (lefty or righty). I gave you cites from the Washington Post and MSNBC in the Pit thread. If you want to call them right-wing blogs, then we don’t have much to discuss between us. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pakistani-general-bin-laden-can-have-safe-haven-if-he-promises-to-be-a-good-boy/371692/23 "2006-09-08T16:07:53Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] You’ll have to ask Bush that. [/quote] I know what GW will say. The Dems are “cut and run.” His appeal on being more effective is to the voters and what the voters, not GW, think is what counts. This claim of having stopped many potential terrorist attacks is getting out of hand. I saw some relatively minor Republican official on MSNBC a day or two ago. His claim was but for GW there would be US cities in ruin, thousands dead of anthrax, and no air travel whatever because of fear. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pakistani-general-bin-laden-can-have-safe-haven-if-he-promises-to-be-a-good-boy/371692/24 "2006-09-12T21:10:50Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I gave you cites from the Washington Post and MSNBC in the Pit thread. If you want to call them right-wing blogs, then we don’t have much to discuss between us. [/QUOTE] The Washington Post and MSNBC have reported that Clinton could have gotten bin Laden if he’d wanted to?? Cite, _please!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pakistani-general-bin-laden-can-have-safe-haven-if-he-promises-to-be-a-good-boy/371692/25 "2006-10-25T00:31:47Z")
[Some Truce!](http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/no_peace_in_pak.html) > [@](#): > > U.S. military officials tell ABC News cross-border attacks by the Taliban are up “300 percent” since President Musharraf declared a “truce” with tribal leaders in the troubled Northern Waziristan region that borders Afghanistan. > > “Politically, it is very sensitive for us to raise this issue with Pakistan,” said a senior NATO officer in Kabul. “But the facts are the facts.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pakistani-general-bin-laden-can-have-safe-haven-if-he-promises-to-be-a-good-boy/371692.md?page=1)