# PALIN BUS TOUR: a proven fraud **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 1, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599 "2009-12-01T17:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![haymarketmartyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@haymarketmartyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/haymarketmartyr)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/1 "2009-12-01T17:23:33Z")
> **[The Daily Beast](https://www.thedailybeast.com/)** > > A smart, speedy take on breaking news and opinion in politics, media, entertainment, and more. it seems that the celebrated bus tour of Sarah Palin is not what it is reported to be after all. Not only is her book filled with lies and half-truths, the entire “bus tour” is a fraud as well. ---
**Author:** ![otternell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecc23a/32.png) [@otternell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otternell)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/2 "2009-12-01T17:26:13Z")
IMHO you could take out the words “bus tour” and the sentence would still be perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/3 "2009-12-01T18:12:57Z")
Resolved: AGW deniers are morally obligated to fly around in private jets. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/4 "2009-12-01T18:26:56Z")
I was just reading about this [here](http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/sarah-palin-bus-tour-features-travel-private-plane/story?id=9211087)! I noted that the ABC News story says that > [@](#): > > HarperCollins, the publisher of Palin’s best-selling “Going Rogue: An American Life,” had no comment on the logistics for the book tour. But a company representative told “Good Morning America” that HarperCollins paid for the jet, and that **Palin took it only for three legs of the journey and only when it was necessary**. But in the link in the OP, we see from the planes logs that her use was much, much more than just 3 trips. > [@Joe McGinniss](#): > > The full activity log for UJT750 can be found here. The bottom line is that the plane’s goings and comings track Palin’s tour perfectly: from Grand Rapids to Washington, Pa. and then to Rochester, N.Y., Roanoke, Va., Fayetteville, N.C., Birmingham, Ala., and Jacksonville and Orlando. > > On November 25, the plane carried Palin, her parents, her two youngest children and her Aunt Katie to Pasco, Washington, for Thanksgiving. And there it sat, at Tri-Cities Airport in Pasco, for four full days, which is a lot of inactivity for a plane that rents for more than $4,000 an hour. But it was Thanksgiving weekend and the Pasco-Richland area was where Palin wanted to be. > > Palin apparently returned to New York Sunday night. At least UJT750 was scheduled to take off from Tri-Cities at 6:55 p.m. EST with an 11:30 p.m. arrival at Teterboro, N.J., anticipated. Her next signing is not until Thursday, in Fayetteville, Arkansas. > > Presumably, she’ll fly to Fayetteville and then board her bus again for the short ride to the local Sam’s Club. Presumably, she’ll also fly over the much greater distances that separate the stops on the western half of her tour, which stretches from Dallas to Minneapolis. Will she continue to pretend she’s riding the bus? Dude, she’s been pretending for so long now about so many things, I think she believes she successfully completed the Fake-It-'Til-You-Make-It correspondence course she and Todd signed up for back in '98. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/5 "2009-12-01T18:38:27Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Resolved: AGW deniers are morally obligated to fly around in private jets. As are the supporters apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/6 "2009-12-01T18:39:53Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > As are the supporters apparently. Well it just makes sense that people who support global warming would fly around in big, expensive, conspicuous jets doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/7 "2009-12-01T18:41:48Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Resolved: AGW deniers are morally obligated to fly around in private jets. She has both. There is a bus full of people driving stop to stop ,then she gets off a private jet and gets on the last few feet. Apparently cost and saving fuel are not considerations. Like Rosy Ruiz and the Boston Marathon. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/8 "2009-12-01T18:54:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I noted that the ABC News story says that > > > [@](#): > > > > HarperCollins, the publisher of Palin’s best-selling “Going Rogue: An American Life,” had no comment on the logistics for the book tour. But a company representative told “Good Morning America” that HarperCollins paid for the jet, and that Palin took it only for three legs of the journey and only when it was necessary. Does the jet also happen to be the one in which the RNC is storing those bags of clothes that went missing after Palin’s campaign last fall? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/9 "2009-12-01T18:55:38Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > She has both. There is a bus full of people driving stop to stop ,then she gets off a private jet and gets on the last few feet. Apparently cost and saving fuel are not considerations. > Like Rosy Ruiz and the Boston Marathon. And just like Rosy, this situation apparently has no thought into the possible long term consequences of her actions. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/10 "2009-12-01T19:02:04Z")
Why doesn’t she just go whole hog and hire Tina Fey to impersonate her at book signings? Sarah could stay home, Tina could make a few extra bucks and the customers would actually be entertained. ---
**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/11 "2009-12-01T19:07:05Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Well it just makes sense that people who support global warming would fly around in big, expensive, conspicuous jets doesn’t it? Especially if they’re from Alaska. In the words of Drew Carey, “F— the grandkids, I’m cold now!” ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/12 "2009-12-01T19:24:50Z")
Look, you Sarahcuda-hating libruls, any old asshole can go on a “bus tour” and ride on “the bus” like a bunch of “librul sheep”. It takes a real maverick to take a “bus tour” with 99% of the mileage covered on a “plane”. She says she’s a maverick, she’s being a maverick. Why don’t you guys to bow down before the Obamessiah? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/13 "2009-12-01T19:29:30Z")
To be clear, the issue isn’t that she’s flying across the country. When I cross the country, I fly, too (albeit I can’t afford a private jet). The issue is that, while she’s flying, she’s saying that she’s taking the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/14 "2009-12-01T20:13:36Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Look, you Sarahcuda-hating libruls, any old asshole can go on a “bus tour” and ride on “the bus” like a bunch of “librul sheep”. > > **It takes a real maverick to take a “bus tour” with 99% of the mileage covered on a “plane”.** > > She says she’s a maverick, she’s being a maverick. Why don’t you guys to bow down before the Obamessiah? > > -Joe OK, this made me LOL. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/15 "2009-12-01T21:14:10Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > To be clear, the issue isn’t that she’s flying across the country. When I cross the country, I fly, too (albeit I can’t afford a private jet). The issue is that, while she’s flying, she’s saying that she’s taking the bus. What if she were pulling a train? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/16 "2009-12-01T21:25:25Z")
Maybe Fred Thompson can follow in his extra-folksy pick-up truck. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/17 "2009-12-01T21:26:36Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > What if she were pulling a train? 😃 Ooh! Pulling it by nipple rings? Please? I’d pay to see that. ---
**Author:** ![Livardo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/43a26b/32.png) [@Livardo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Livardo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/18 "2009-12-01T22:21:23Z")
So is she seriously going to run for prez? I think (as many have speculated) that she wrote the book and went on the book tour to gauge support. Looks like Huckabee is getting Willie Horton’d. It’s going to be really interesting to see who is going to battle for the nomination! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/19 "2009-12-01T22:42:31Z")
> [@Livardo](#): > > So is she seriously going to run for prez? I think (as many have speculated) that she wrote the book and went on the book tour to gauge support. Looks like Huckabee is getting Willie Horton’d. It’s going to be really interesting to see who is going to battle for the nomination! That’s kind of the thing. One of the reasons McCain got plastered so badly was because nobody really wanted him - he was the default candidate. I expect that the Democrats are going to take a beating in 2010 (wow, quite a ballsy prediction I know), and in 2012 the GOP candidate is going to end up a default - probably a token like Palin or Jindal. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599/20 "2009-12-01T23:23:19Z")
Interesting, I think I have a friend-of-a-friend who’s a pilot for that company, I’ll try and see if he’s the one flying her around. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-bus-tour-a-proven-fraud/519599.md?page=2)