# Palin: Dear Media, Leave My Family Alone. Also, Please Buy My Reality Show **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272 "2010-03-04T13:35:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/21 "2010-03-04T19:00:07Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > One can only wonder why Obama’s family seems oddly able to generate only positive coverage from the media. The same reason that Bush’s, Palin’s and McCain’s do. Because the media (at least the mainstream media) doesn’t attack families, and has not attacked Palin’s. Incidentally, Fox News attacks Michelle Obama routinely. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/22 "2010-03-04T19:00:21Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Apart from the fact that this has nothing to do with anything Except this thread, but do go on. > [@](#): > > the media (and late-night talk show) abuse directed at Palin’s family far precedes talk of a potential reality show. > > And come to think of it, when’s the last time you saw David Letterman or Jay Leno making fun of Obama’s family? > > The fact is that the left doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to denying media bias. It’s like arguing that 2+2=…uh…anything but 4. Your argument is more like 2 + banana = will you look at that spider!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/23 "2010-03-04T19:00:53Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Ooh, ooh, I almost forgot. The Clintons trotted Chelsea out to try to try to help her mother get elected, and the media followed like sheep when the Clintons put her off limits. Are you Benjamin Button? Is time going backwards for you? The Clintons asked the media to leave Chelsea “out of it” when she was a child and growing up in the White House. They never insisted that Chelsea is off-limits story-wise when she was an adult and actively campaigning for her mother during the democratic primaries. The lack of any recent Chelsea stories is likely due to the fact that she doesn’t have any obviously titillating or controversial things going on. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/24 "2010-03-04T19:01:24Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You’d have a point if MSNBC was the only media source going after Palin’s family. Name one media attack on Palin’s family. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/25 "2010-03-04T19:02:57Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That is not my recollection. Then your recollection is wrong. I guarntee you will not be able to cite a single legit media outlet reporting the story as anything but false. They reported that an “attack” happened on Kos (usually neglecting to mention that it was posted by a public poster, not by the site itself). They did not report that it was true, or suggest that it was true. Before lunchtime they were all reporting it as false and defamatory. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/26 "2010-03-04T19:12:45Z")
So is it the consensus here that if Michelle Obama were to start a talk show or reality show, her family would become deluged with negative coverage? Yeah, right. Every member of the MSM would need a five-gallon drool cup to contend with the overflow. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/27 "2010-03-04T19:15:42Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Name one media attack on Palin’s family. Erm, wasn’t negative media coverage of Palin’s family, and Palin’s resentment of it, the primary subject of discussion in this very thread at the time I entered the fray, or has everyone been imagining it? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/28 "2010-03-04T19:19:54Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The same reason that Bush’s, Palin’s and McCain’s do. Because the media (at least the mainstream media) doesn’t attack families, and has not attacked Palin’s. > > Incidentally, Fox News attacks Michelle Obama routinely. Terrorist fist jab! Fox amazes me. This is a news channel, is it? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/29 "2010-03-04T19:22:15Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Erm, wasn’t negative media coverage of Palin’s family, and Palin’s resentment of it, the primary subject of discussion in this very thread at the time I entered the fray, or has everyone been imagining it? To Palin and her bleating moronic followers, “negative treatment” is anything but fawning adoration. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/30 "2010-03-04T19:23:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Name one media attack on Palin’s family. Perhaps it would be more fair to say, name one _unjustified_ media attack on Palin’s family. ---
**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/31 "2010-03-04T19:23:42Z")
It seems to have escaped everyone that the show isn’t about Palin, or her family…it’s about Alaska. “Multiple sources confirm that Palin and uber-reality show producer Mark Burnett have been making the rounds in Hollywood this week to pitch a TV docudrama about Alaska.” [http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/03/03/exclusive-sarah-palin-shopping-alaska-docudrama-with-mark-burnett/?xid=rss-feed-tvwatch-Sarah+Palin+pitching+a+TV+show](http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/03/03/exclusive-sarah-palin-shopping-alaska-docudrama-with-mark-burnett/?xid=rss-feed-tvwatch-Sarah+Palin+pitching+a+TV+show) ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/32 "2010-03-04T19:25:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Palin and her family would be followed on-camera in the show, which one network executive described as “‘Planet Earth’ meets Alaska meets her family,” referring to Discovery’s high-definition nature hit. From the article in the OP. Thanks for playing. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/33 "2010-03-04T19:29:59Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > To Palin and her bleating moronic followers, “negative treatment” is anything but fawning adoration. So your contention is…what? That posters here were arguing that if she wanted positive coverage, she should also expect…neutral coverage? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/34 "2010-03-04T19:31:44Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Then your recollection is wrong. I guarntee you will not be able to cite a single legit media outlet reporting the story as anything but false. They reported that an “attack” happened on Kos (usually neglecting to mention that it was posted by a public poster, not by the site itself). They did not report that it was true, or suggest that it was true. Before lunchtime they were all reporting it as false and defamatory. How many times have I been down this road with you? I’ll find one, and you’ll start moving the goalposts. So, goalpost movers, start your engines! The Atlantic: > [@](#): > > There must be plenty of medical records and obstetricians and medical eye-witnesses prepared to testify to Sarah Palin’s giving birth to Trig. There must be a record of Bristol’s high school attendance for the past year. And surely, surely, the McCain camp did due diligence on this. But the noise around this story is now deafening, and the weirdness of the chronology sufficient to rise to the level of good faith questions. So please give us these answers - and provide medical records for Sarah Palin’s pregnancy - and put this to rest. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/35 "2010-03-04T19:35:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Erm, wasn’t negative media coverage of Palin’s family, and Palin’s resentment of it, the primary subject of discussion in this very thread at the time I entered the fray, or has everyone been imagining it? No, the subject was Palin pitching a reality show. There has been no negative media coverage of Palin’s family, and her pretended “resentment” of it amounts to no more than a habit of self-srving deflection and false accusation. You can’t name any examples of the media attacking Palin’s family because it hasn’t happened. At all. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/36 "2010-03-04T19:40:45Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So your contention is…what? That posters here were arguing that if she wanted positive coverage, she should also expect…neutral coverage? She should expect _honest_ coverage. How positive it is is up to her and her own behavior. The main point of the OP, though, is that it’s highly disingenuous to demand that the media “leave her family alone” (which it always has), while simultaneously begging it to follow her and her family around. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/37 "2010-03-04T19:42:02Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > How many times have I been down this road with you? I’ll find one, and you’ll start moving the goalposts. > > So, goalpost movers, start your engines! > > The Atlantic: No link? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/38 "2010-03-04T19:43:09Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No link? [Sure.](http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/things-that-mak.html) ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/39 "2010-03-04T19:50:54Z")
OMG, you are right. She’s been horribly treated by the media. NO WONDER she wants a full-time media team following her family around. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/40 "2010-03-04T19:53:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So your contention is…what? That posters here were arguing that if she wanted positive coverage, she should also expect…neutral coverage? By neutral coverage, presumably you mean right-wing propoganda, a la Fox News, “neutral,” but everything seems to skew left when you lean to the right. Facts, simple facts, reported by the media, if they make the right look bad in any way, are evidence of the media’s vast conspiracy to destroy them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272.md?page=3)