# Palin: Dear Media, Leave My Family Alone. Also, Please Buy My Reality Show **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272 "2010-03-04T13:35:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/81 "2010-03-05T00:40:48Z")
Wow, the sarcasm in my post really didn’t come across, it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/82 "2010-03-05T00:44:29Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Wow, the sarcasm in my post really didn’t come across, it seems. No, I got it, but just because you didn’t mean it, that doesn’t mean it isn’t true. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/83 "2010-03-05T00:47:59Z")
Geez, between **Diogenes the Cynic** and **Starving Artist** , this thread is pretty much devoid of sensiblility. If I ever do return full time to the political fray here on the SDMB, those two are going on my ignore list. Admittedly, that would still leave this thread unreadable, as the majority of the posters here are, for reasons of their own, engaging one or the other of the two dunces, but it would take me a much shorter time to make the attempt. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/84 "2010-03-05T00:51:59Z")
Well, aren’t you the special one, then? :rolleyes: Go take your smug, albeit unwarranted, sense of superiority somewhere else, then. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/85 "2010-03-05T00:54:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Really? ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, HLN, MSNBC, Time, Newsweek, Vanity Fair, Playboy, Cosmo, The View, the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, and 95% of Hollywood’s celebrities are all going to do that? > > Cool. no,no, you’re right, they’re going to continue to attack her family, every chance they get. And I think the made up number you’re looking for is 96% of Hollywood celebrities. 95% looks too much like a figure you’ve pulled out of your ass. After all, look at all the times that the media outlets you’ve listed have either implied or stated outright “Look how stupid and backwards Palin and her family are”. I mean, they’re constantly doing this right? Or do you need to be wearing special glasses to see the coded messages? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/86 "2010-03-05T00:54:14Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Are you sure about that? I admit I haven’t found a cite that says it’s greater or lesser than 5%…but it’s beating the _pants_ off CNN news these days. > > here are some citations, and I’ll try to keep my sources fair & balanced: > > I think the complaint that Fox is a minor player rings a little hollow. Well, take a look at Fox’s figures and then think about how much of the population they represent vs. how much everyone else reaches on a daily basis. If Fox reaches 2 million people a day, that’s only one out of every 150 people in the country, based on a population of 300 million people. Then consider that the number that represents is fairly static - they will be roughly the same 2 million people each day. Then look at how much of the population is reached by all of the other outlets I mentioned. It will be almost everyone, including the 2 million watching Fox. Their influence is subtle and insideous and they have been using it to pro-liberal and anti-conservative viewpoints for decades. So even though Fox may be trouncing CNN or some other individual outlet, and even though it’s message may more aggressive, that doesn’t mean that Fox isn’t far outweighed in terms of the number of people it reaches or the cumulative effect of decades of pro-liberal MSM influence. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/87 "2010-03-05T00:55:23Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Wow, the sarcasm in my post really didn’t come across, it seems. I was trying to be sarcasmier. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/88 "2010-03-05T00:55:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Well, aren’t you the special one, then? :rolleyes: > > Go take your smug, albeit unwarranted, sense of superiority somewhere else, then. At last we have something to agree on. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/89 "2010-03-05T01:04:47Z")
([Chris Crocker](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Crocker_%28Internet_celebrity%29#Leave_Britney_Alone.21)) Leave Sarah alone! (/Chris Crocker) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/90 "2010-03-05T01:14:49Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Well, aren’t you the special one, then? :rolleyes: > > Go take your smug, albeit unwarranted, sense of superiority somewhere else, then. It’s certainly possible that my sense of superiority is smug, but it’s not unwarranted. I do not allow my political beliefs or predelictions to blind me to reality, and that makes me, in my opinion, superior to those whose sense of correctness blinds them to facts – regardless of whether their political views side with mine. There are blind pigs on both sides, and I’ve named two of them. If you don’t care for my opinion, there are any number of places on the Internet where you will not be forced to read my posts. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/91 "2010-03-05T01:16:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I imagine she would demand total control of editing decisions, and everything filmed would likely be meticulously staged in any case. It’s not like she would allow anything legitimately candid. I can’t imagine a producer buying into those terms. I think even she’s smart enough to know that. Or at least her agent should be. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/92 "2010-03-05T01:18:10Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Possibly a bit premature. From [CNN](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/04/palin-pitching-reality-tv-show/?hpt=Sbin&fbid=CDJztHRJAPi): OK, that makes more sense. Guess we should get a mod to close this thread, right? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/93 "2010-03-05T01:19:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > After all, look at all the times that the media outlets you’ve listed have either implied or stated outright “Look how stupid and backwards Palin and her family are”. I mean, they’re constantly doing this right? Or do you need to be wearing special glasses to see the coded messages? To be fair, I think Starving Artist honestly believes that having hard-hitting journalists such as Katie Couric ask trick questions like “Which newspapers do you read” constitutes an attack. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/94 "2010-03-05T01:35:41Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > To be fair, I think Starving Artist honestly believes that having hard-hitting journalists such as Katie Couric ask trick questions like “Which newspapers do you read” constitutes an attack. Well, it’s clear that bitchy Couric was just showin’ off her literacy, what with all her questions about fancy newspapers and magazines and book learnin’ stuff. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/95 "2010-03-05T01:55:15Z")
How about Sarah Palin stops hiding the Canadian birth certificate of Trig. Yeah, people claiming to have witnessed Trig’s birth are part of the he’s an American conspiracy that is starting so that he will be able to run for President when I’m in my early 80s. The fact is that Trig is a secret Kenyan. They need to produce a birth certificate showing who the mommy and daddy are and place of birth, and not a certified copy of the birth certificate, but the original. Nayh, nayh, nayh. Anyway, she was on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno a few days back and was treated fawningly by Leno, a longtime (shudder) Democrat. She will be stabbed in the back worse on Fox by their other jealous “broadcasters”. Please note, for the sarcasm impaired, that the first paragraph above was sarcasm. I wish Trig all the best. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/96 "2010-03-05T01:58:10Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Geez, between **Diogenes the Cynic** and **Starving Artist** , this thread is pretty much devoid of sensiblility. > > If I ever do return full time to the political fray here on the SDMB, those two are going on my ignore list. Admittedly, that would still leave this thread unreadable, as the majority of the posters here are, for reasons of their own, engaging one or the other of the two dunces, but it would take me a much shorter time to make the attempt. Point taken. I’m done here. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/97 "2010-03-05T02:10:01Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > It’s certainly possible that my sense of superiority is smug, but it’s not unwarranted. I do not allow my political beliefs or predelictions to blind me to reality, and that makes me, in my opinion, superior to those whose sense of correctness blinds them to facts – regardless of whether their political views side with mine. There are blind pigs on both sides, and I’ve named two of them. > > If you don’t care for my opinion, there are any number of places on the Internet where you will not be forced to read my posts. Please enlighten me as to exactly what facts I’ve been “blind” to. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/98 "2010-03-05T02:59:50Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Well, aren’t you the special one, then? :rolleyes: > > Go take your smug, albeit unwarranted, sense of superiority somewhere else, then. Physician, heal thyself. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/99 "2010-03-05T03:48:44Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > There’s the bell, and the goalposts are off! Moving down the stretch and approaching the first turn, it’s a tight race! Even without the Update, this is still bullshit and you know it. The full paragraph begins with a specific denouncement of the rumors. > [@](#): > > \*\*"It strikes me as likely that there are reasonable answers to these questions - more reasonable than the only one given so far - > > ``` > "You can't have a fish picker from Texas," said Todd - > > ``` > > and the rumors buzzing across the Internets and the press corps are unfounded and unseemly.\*\* There must be plenty of medical records and obstetricians and medical eye-witnesses prepared to testify to Sarah Palin’s giving birth to Trig. There must be a record of Bristol’s high school attendance for the past year. And surely, surely, the McCain camp did due diligence on this. But the noise around this story is now deafening, and the weirdness of the chronology sufficient to rise to the level of good faith questions. So please give us these answers - and provide medical records for Sarah Palin’s pregnancy - and put this to rest. This blog in no way constitutes an example of the mainstream media running with the rumor. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272/100 "2010-03-05T03:57:47Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Even without the Update, this is still bullshit and you know it. > > The full paragraph begins with a specific denouncement of the rumors.This blog in no way constitutes an example of the mainstream media running with the rumor. Ah, but sadly, friend **Bricker** is done here. He has washed his hands of our goalpost-moving,fact-ignoring blind piggishness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-dear-media-leave-my-family-alone-also-please-buy-my-reality-show/531272.md?page=6)