# Palin: Hillary would NEVER be treated this way! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315 "2008-10-24T05:47:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/1 "2008-10-24T05:47:14Z")
Sarah Palin [talks](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-sarah-palin-1023,0,7917021.story) about wardrobe flap, double standard for women and special education: > [@Sarah Palin](#): > > I think Hillary Clinton was held to a different standard in her primary race," Palin said. "Do you remember the conversations that took place about her, say superficial things that they don’t talk about with men, her wardrobe and her hairstyles, all of that? That’s a bit of that double standard. Yep, Sarah, you got the short end of the stick. Nobody would dare criticize Hillary’s outfits, or treat her in a sexist way. [Oh, wait…](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/19/AR2007071902668.html) > [@WaPo](#): > > There was cleavage on display Wednesday afternoon on C-SPAN2. It belonged to Sen. Hillary Clinton. Eat it, Sarah. Welcome to DC. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/2 "2008-10-24T05:52:28Z")
Upon looking at the linked article, she seems to be saying that in her primary Hilary was held to a different standard than a male candidate would have been. In other words, I see a bit of sisterly solidarity here, not Palin saying she is being treated worse than Clinton. (I have got to stop defending this woman. Gah!) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/3 "2008-10-24T06:16:05Z")
**Hilarity N. Suze** , You may have a point, but it really pisses me off when I see a sexist article about a feminine politician, and the “Hillary + Cleavage” WAPO article stuck in my mind at the time. If Palin wants to claim sexism, Hillary’s treatment by the press has some high points to cross. And I don’t even like nor support Hillary, not a bit. Cry me a river, Sarah. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/4 "2008-10-24T06:29:30Z")
You’re pissed off by sexist articles, so you pit Palin? There are good reasons to pit her, but that doesn’t seem like one to me. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/5 "2008-10-24T06:31:11Z")
Third sign of the Apocalypse, Palin is right. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/6 "2008-10-24T06:36:41Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > You’re pissed off by sexist articles, so you pit Palin? There are good reasons to pit her, but that doesn’t seem like one to me. I’m pitting Palin for saying she’s gotten half the trouble HRC got. The [Wapo](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/19/AR2007071902668.html) article is my counter example – Palin has gotten kid gloves compared to Clinton. Got a problem with that? ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/7 "2008-10-24T06:51:00Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I’m pitting Palin for saying she’s gotten half the trouble HRC got. She doesn’t make that claim in the first article you linked to. Got another? In fact, she’s kind of implying the opposite. > [@](#): > > Got a problem with that? OK, apparently I wasn’t clear the first time, so let me break it down. First, you pit Palin. > [@](#): > > Eat it, Sarah. Welcome to DC. Then, when it was pointed out to you that Palin didn’t actually say what you said she said, you acknowledged this possibility but added that it was sexism that pissed you off. > [@](#): > > You may have a point, but it really pisses me off when I see a sexist article about a feminine politician So, it would seem the original pitting was pretty much dead at that point. But then you turned it back on Palin. > [@](#): > > Cry me a river, Sarah. So do I have a problem with it? No, not like I’m going to lie awake worrying about it. I just don’t get why your anger at sexist articles leads you to pit the subject of sexist articles, unless you just really want to pit Palin and don’t care what the reason is. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/8 "2008-10-24T06:57:39Z")
Bah. OK, you’re probably right. The ‘cleavage’ article STILL pisses me off. And, Sarah can still eat it. OK? ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/9 "2008-10-24T07:19:25Z")
OK! ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/10 "2008-10-24T07:22:00Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Bah. OK, you’re probably right. The ‘cleavage’ article STILL pisses me off. And, Sarah can still eat it. OK? There’s probably big money in Palin “eating cleavage” porn, and if she did that, her and McCain would probably win the election. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/11 "2008-10-24T11:51:07Z")
Complaining about how she’s being treated because she’s a girl? Not Sarah Palin. She doesn’t like it when chicks whine about sexism and being treated differently than the boys. Or, she didn’t in March when she was at the “Women & Leadership” conference in LA. > [@](#): > > **Sarah Palin** in [Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/id/156288) said: > But when I hear a statement like that coming from a women candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or a sharper microscope put on her, I think, man, that doesn’t do us any good. Women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country, I don’t think it bodes well for her, a statement like that. Because, again, fair or not fair it is there. I think it’s reality and it’s a given, people just accept that she’s going to be under a sharper microscope. So be it. Work harder, prove to yourself to an even greater degree that you’re capable, that you’re going to be the best candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/12 "2008-10-24T12:02:49Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Third sign of the Apocalypse, Palin is right. ``` Yepper. But I hope she's reflected on the fact that sans tits she wouldn't have been picked nor have $150K wardrobe expense to play up the fact. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/13 "2008-10-24T12:50:49Z")
I read this in the Chicago Tribune this morning and laughed our loud: "PITTSBURGH - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin insisted in an interview with the Tribune on Thursday that she did not accept $150,000 worth of designer clothes from the Republican Party and “that is not who we are.” “That whole thing is just, bad!” she said. "Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. “It’s kind of painful to be criticized for something when all the facts are not out there and are not reported,” said Palin, saying the clothes are not worth $150,000 and were bought for the Republican National Convention. Still, she has been wearing pricey clothes at campaign events this fall. She said they will be given back, auctioned off or sent to charity. Most of them, she said, haven’t even left the belly of her campaign plane." [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-sarah-palin-1023,0,7917021.story](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-sarah-palin-1023,0,7917021.story) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/14 "2008-10-24T13:31:02Z")
Hell, I wish they wouldn’t focus on how she looks (not bad) or how she dresses and focus more on the stuff that comes out of her mouth. If Sarah Palin was ugly she’d still be in Wasilla, probably working as a clerk or giving hunting tours. And if you want people to focus on your substance, a few suggestions: 1. Have something substantive to say. 2. Don’t do glam photo spreads with your boy toy hubby for People magazine. 3. Buy moderately price clothing and tone down the make up and accessories. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/15 "2008-10-24T13:35:16Z")
I read this title as “Paris Hilton would NEVER be treated this way!” and wandered in to try to figure out what was Pit-worthy about it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/16 "2008-10-24T13:36:08Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Bah. OK, you’re probably right. The ‘cleavage’ article STILL pisses me off. And, Sarah can still eat it. OK? You know, it’s really not your fault you misunderstood. It’s Sarah Palin’s fault, for failing, once again, to properly communicate. I personally don’t give a shit how much money her campaign spends on clothing her. Her basic, most fundamental flaw is enumerated by this very example–nobody understands what the fuck she’s saying. That fact in and of itself renders her unworthy of the vice presidency. ---
**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/17 "2008-10-24T13:42:36Z")
Bad pitting…this time. However, can we all get behind this question: WTF is up with her family and kid names? Track, Trig, and now we find out her sister’s kid is named Karcher? Is it something in the water up in Alaska? I have a weird name, but I can always say my parents (liberals) did drugs\*. What’s their excuse? \*They didn’t, but since I was born in the 60s it’s what many people assume. I’m looking at you here, Starving Artist. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/18 "2008-10-24T13:49:50Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > … Her basic, most fundamental flaw is enumerated by this very example–nobody understands what the fuck she’s saying. That fact in and of itself renders her unworthy of the vice presidency. That’s true. Sarah thinks we don’t know the difference between knowledge and _winging it_. We’re not suppose to recognize the void beneath those cute facial expressions. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/19 "2008-10-24T16:46:34Z")
> [@stretch](#): > > Bad pitting…this time. > > However, can we all get behind this question: WTF is up with her family and kid names? Track, Trig, and now we find out her sister’s kid is named Karcher? Is it something in the water up in Alaska? > > I have a weird name, but I can always say my parents (liberals) did drugs\*. What’s their excuse? > > \*They didn’t, but since I was born in the 60s it’s what many people assume. I’m looking at you here, Starving Artist. 😉 I agree. **Stretch** is a very weird name for a child. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315/20 "2008-10-25T03:05:33Z")
Originally said by Eliza Think-Little: > [@](#): > > That whole thing is just, bad!" she said. "Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. Whatdoes being frugal have to do with refuting that you accepted $150,000 worth of free clothes from the RNC? Accepting free goodies sounds exactly like something a “frugal” person would do. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-hillary-would-never-be-treated-this-way/469315.md?page=2)