# Palin Red Lips Supporters **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 11, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152 "2008-09-11T20:28:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/21 "2008-09-12T19:37:51Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > Never saw it before. It is indeed freaky. It’s like the Joker painted up some girly girls. That’s it, that’s the mojo. Just have Palin grab the mic at the first VP debate and have her leer over at Biden and gargle out “Why…So…Serious?” Every day of this race I miss Hunter Thompson more and more. Oh, and **NurseCarmen**? While I agree about the lust for redheads thing, that one is wearing enough orange tinted base makeup that she could be my dad in disguise and nobody would know. Or she could be missing her teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/22 "2008-09-12T21:23:41Z")
> [@LunaticFringette](#): > > Were they all Florida delegates? I don’t know. Did anyone other than Florida delegates have a reason to wear hats shaped like alligators? ---
**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/23 "2008-09-12T22:56:09Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > I don’t know. Did anyone other than Florida delegates have a reason to wear hats shaped like alligators? That would imply that Florida delegates had a reason to wear those hats. They most certainly did not, under any circumstances. And yes, I live in Florida. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/24 "2008-09-12T23:07:34Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > I would gladly have the redhead in the link put those lips to work, ifyaknowwhatimean. No, I have no idea what you mean. Why don’t you explain it to me? ---
**Author:** ![LunaticFringette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/fbc32d/32.png) [@LunaticFringette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LunaticFringette)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/25 "2008-09-12T23:15:11Z")
> [@Auntbeast](#): > > That would imply that Florida delegates had a reason to wear those hats. > > They most certainly did not, under any circumstances. And yes, I live in Florida. Gators? ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/26 "2008-09-12T23:17:24Z")
Is this really considered a form of racial insult? I had never heard of this before and I just thought they were wearing them as being symbolic of Florida. I’m sure if you go to a FL Gators game there are a ton of those. I guess what I’m questioning is was this a deliberate insult at Obama or just some guy from FL representing his state? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/27 "2008-09-12T23:21:45Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > No, I have no idea what you mean. Why don’t you explain it to me? Waxing the car, that’s what I got out of it. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/28 "2008-09-12T23:27:18Z")
They look so _stupid_! ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/29 "2008-09-12T23:37:20Z")
> [@LunaticFringette](#): > > Gators? That would have been my first guess, Univ of Florida Gators. I’d never heard what **DianaG** linked to. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/30 "2008-09-12T23:43:06Z")
It’s amazing how often Republicans just coincidentally use racially charged words and images that they’re completely unaware of the implications of. Poor misunderstood bastards. ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/31 "2008-09-12T23:53:09Z")
> [@Rack-a-Bones](#): > > I’m sure if you go to a FL Gators game there are a ton of those. Little Obama figure and all, right? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![LunaticFringette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/fbc32d/32.png) [@LunaticFringette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LunaticFringette)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/32 "2008-09-13T00:10:15Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > It’s amazing how often Republicans just coincidentally use racially charged words and images that they’re completely unaware of the implications of. Poor misunderstood bastards. I don’t think it was a racial slur. It was the Florida delegation who wore the Gator hats, which is a very identifiable mascot unique to the U of Florida, state of Florida and therefore their delegation. The Texas delegation wore cowboy hats.. same difference. Putting the action figure of Obama in the gator mouth was tasteless, but without knowing that gentleman personally how do you know it was racial or just a stupid move? I hope you’re not assuming because he is Rep that it was racist, just like the Reps assumed Obama’s lipstick/pig statement was intentional because he is a Dem. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/33 "2008-09-13T00:36:44Z")
> [@warmgun](#): > > Little Obama figure and all, right? :rolleyes: I looked at the picture before I read what it meant. Before reading what DianeG posted I thought some crazy guy from FL wearing a funny hat. And the doll was like any just like things people make up at a lot of sports events or rallies where they draw or make some goofy “sculpture” of a Patriot flogging a Dolphin, or a 49er eating a Seahawk, or a Husky biting a Cougar, etc. There were some [nutty getups at the DNC too](http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Democratic-National-Convention-Democratic-National-Convention-Beck-Denver2C-Colorado/ss/events/pl/073008dncdemocratcon/im:/080906/photos_ts_afp/6137cd538ed963a4442c987aa73405e8/). After reading the history I thought “what fucking prick that guy is” and how did this escape any notice in the media? So that guy either didn’t realize what he was doing or he’s a scumbag racist shit stain and proud of it. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/34 "2008-09-13T00:47:27Z")
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/35 "2008-09-13T00:54:32Z")
> [@Rack-a-Bones](#): > > Is this really considered a form of racial insult? I had never heard of this before and I just thought they were wearing them as being symbolic of Florida. It is now. Don’t worry, just about anything soon will be. The Dems are heading down a bad road with the self-fulfiling prophecy of “Obama is gonna lose becuase of racism, man”.☹ ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/36 "2008-09-13T03:18:11Z")
Back to the lip thing, I’d be upset if I were Palin. Having a pair of red, horribly inflamed labia as a symbol of my candidancy? It just reduces her to a non-substantive gimmick, a punchline that really wasn’t all that original or funny to begin with. Imagine her giving a speech in front an audience wearing those things. Would she really be able to take herself seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/37 "2008-09-13T03:24:03Z")
I thought they were just bad Blov-Tox injections. Ignorance fought. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/38 "2008-09-13T05:10:12Z")
> [@LunaticFringette](#): > > I hope you’re not assuming because he is Rep that it was racist, just like the Reps assumed Obama’s lipstick/pig statement was intentional because he is a Dem. Compare those two things if it makes you feel better, but it’s an enormous pile of bullshit. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Don’t worry, just about anything soon will be. Or \*nothing \*is, and I shouldn’t be so quick to see that as a racist statement just because it has a documented history as a racist statment. I know sometimes that kind of book learnin’ will fuck with a girl’s mind. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/39 "2008-09-13T12:46:17Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > It’s amazing how often Republicans just coincidentally use racially charged words and images that they’re completely unaware of the implications of. Poor misunderstood bastards. That seems an unfair generalization. I’ve lived 50 years in Ohio, Colorado and Georgia, and if you asked me to write out a list of the racially charged words and images I know of, without Googling, alligators and gator bait would not have made the list. I had never heard of it before opening this thread. Now I’m sure you could make the case that someone from Florida SHOULD have, but don’t lump those of us who truly were unaware of any secondary meaning with the people who created the artifacts you linked to. A “documented history” doesn’t mean everyone has studied those documents, by the way…there a whole lot of stuff in the world I have no burning desire to study. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152/40 "2008-09-13T12:57:09Z")
Big fat tree-huggin, America hatin’, terrorist-coddlin’, on-demand-partial-birth-abortion-wantin’, Liberal checking in. I think it’s kind of funny. The big plastic lips thing … not the alliigator bait thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-red-lips-supporters/463152.md?page=3)