# Palin Resigns as Gov? WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 3, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843 "2009-07-03T19:53:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/341 "2009-07-05T01:32:02Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > One thing just occurred to me: Michael Steele has been a disaster for the Republican party. The guy is completely out of touch, and he hasn’t been able to pull Republicans together at all. > > I wonder if Palin isn’t being set up to become the new head of the RNC? Well, I’ve said of both of them that they’re the gift that keeps on giving, so it would provide a certain fundamental continuity. > [@Squink](#): > > [Sarah Palin Outsmarts the Left | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/07/04/sarah-palin-outsmarts-left/) We libruls want to enact universal health care, bring global warming under control, and minimize the harm the current recession wreaks on people’s lives. They want to think they’ve outsmarted us. I’m torn between feeling amused, and feeling sorry for them. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/342 "2009-07-05T01:48:02Z")
[Sarah Palin is citing a “higher calling” in quitting.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31737517/ns/politics-more_politics/) This according to a story from MSN. She apparently wants to push an agenda on the national front, and can’t do that from Alaska as Governor. So says Teh Sarah. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/343 "2009-07-05T01:55:38Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Actually, you should be here to discuss the potentially realistic aspects of Palin’s resignation, otherwise you should be posting in The Pit or IMHO or, pehaps, MPSIMS. [Perhaps the left hand could talk to the right.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=523342) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/344 "2009-07-05T02:01:43Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > [Sarah Palin is citing a “higher calling” in quitting.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31737517/ns/politics-more_politics/) This according to a story from MSN. > > She apparently wants to push an agenda on the national front, and can’t do that from Alaska as Governor. > > So says Teh Sarah. That’s just more of the same incoherent bullshit as yesterday. She’s also playing the victim card again in that because people have been critical of her decision. It also says her lawyer is hysterically threatening to sue anybody under the sun who has the nerve to speculate about her real motivations: > [@](#): > > “To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as ‘fact’ that Governor Palin resigned because she is ‘under federal investigation’ for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation,” Van Flein said in a statement. “This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law.” She really despises free speech, doesn’t she? The fact that thge lawyer singled out Shannyn Moore probably means she’s dead on about the embezzlement investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/345 "2009-07-05T02:07:17Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > We libruls want to enact universal health care, bring global warming under control, and minimize the harm the current recession wreaks on people’s lives. I’m reminded of something William F. Buckley once said: \*“Liberals mean well but do ill and then excuse their ill-doing by their well-meaning.” \* Just the other day I was reading an article on the private health care clinincs that have been springing up in Canada as an alternative to the national Canadian system that requires roughly a year’s wait just to get a CAT scan. And sure enough, the doctors populating them were being excoriated for draining doctors from the national system, thereby making long waits even worse, and the patients for using their own money to ‘unfairly’ obtain health care more readily than their less well-heeled countrymen. Nationalized health care is a disaster for everyone except those who don’t have health care to begin with, and that problem could be fixed in a way much less harmful than bringing everyone’s care under the auspices of the United States government. And here’s something I haven’t seen discussed around here - how long do you think it will be until financial pressures result in the government denying you treatment if you smoke, are overweight, don’t exercise, don’t eat the governmentally mandated low-fat diet (a diet which is coming under criticism more and more as being a more harmful diet than a low-carbohydrate diet) etc.? In other words, once the government gets control over your health care, it gets control over your life. Why aren’t “libruls” content merely to solve the problem of those who need health care but don’t have it, rather than trying to bring everyone under the inefficient and uncaring auspices of government beaurocrats? “Mediocrity and scarcity for all above excellence and plenty for most!” appears to be the liberal battle cry. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/346 "2009-07-05T02:15:50Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And here’s something I haven’t seen discussed around here - how long do you think it will be until financial pressures result in the government denying you treatment if you smoke, are overweight, don’t exercise, don’t eat the governmentally mandated low-fat diet… etc.? I hate to continue the hijack, but I’m curious: In which countries that have National Health Care is this happening now? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/347 "2009-07-05T02:16:10Z")
> [@chique](#): > > [Perhaps the left hand could talk to the right.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=523342) I’m tolerating a certain amount of fluff on the basis that it is inevitable, but I do not have to encourage fluff or Pit posts. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/348 "2009-07-05T02:17:40Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > You have _golf courses_ in Alaska? 🙂 They play with blue balls. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/349 "2009-07-05T02:17:49Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That’s just more of the same incoherent bullshit as yesterday. She’s also playing the victim card again in that because people have been critical of her decision. Victim card, Sarah? > [@](#): > > though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. 😉 She’s being HOUNDED! This appears to be the full text of her statement here: [http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/07/sarah-palins-4th-of-july-message.php?ref=fpblg](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/07/sarah-palins-4th-of-july-message.php?ref=fpblg) > [@](#): > > God bless you! And I look forward to making a difference - with you! I’m waitin for my doorbell, too **RING**! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/350 "2009-07-05T02:18:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I got a feelilng, **Starv** , that if an asteroid slammed into the Earth, you would be down here pointing out how much its about liberal/lefty/Dem hypocrisy. > > That, and how asteroid strikes were much more polite and civil in the 50s, And I ‘got a feeling’ that if you had a more substantive way to rebut the numerous citings of liberal hypocrisies that I post, your defense would consist of more than asteroids and the championing of rudeness and incivility. But then that’s just me…your mileage obviously varies. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/351 "2009-07-05T02:20:10Z")
BTW, there is now a [Pit thread open](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=523372) for general pointing and laughing. Further expressions of scorn or hilarity may be posted there. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/352 "2009-07-05T02:21:30Z")
Who are these other “honorable” quitters that she’s referring to? What the hell is she talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/353 "2009-07-05T02:21:41Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > She really despises free speech, doesn’t she? The fact that thge lawyer singled out Shannyn Moore probably means she’s dead on about the embezzlement investigation. I dare say you are almost certainly correct. I would only add that, back when I was in public relations, the First Law of PR was “Never sue for defamation, it only keeps the story in the papers longer.” This public gauntlet throw-down from her attorney (what’s known in the biz as “your mouth writing checks that your ass can’t cash”) reveals how amateurish the whole Team Palin operation is. ---
**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/354 "2009-07-05T02:21:51Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m reminded of something William F. Buckley once said: \*“Liberals mean well but do ill and then excuse their ill-doing by their well-meaning.” \* > > Just the other day I was reading an article on the private health care clinincs that have been springing up in Canada as an alternative to the national Canadian system that requires roughly a year’s wait just to get a CAT scan. And sure enough, the doctors populating them were being excoriated for draining doctors from the national system, thereby making long waits even worse, and the patients for using their own money to ‘unfairly’ obtain health care more readily than their less well-heeled countrymen. > > Nationalized health care is a disaster for everyone except those who don’t have health care to begin with, and that problem could be fixed in a way much less harmful than bringing everyone’s care under the auspices of the United States government. > > And here’s something I haven’t seen discussed around here - how long do you think it will be until financial pressures result in the government denying you treatment if you smoke, are overweight, don’t exercise, don’t eat the governmentally mandated low-fat diet (a diet which is coming under criticism more and more as being a more harmful diet than a low-carbohydrate diet) etc.? In other words, once the government gets control over your health care, it gets control over your life. > > Why aren’t “libruls” content merely to solve the problem of those who need health care but don’t have it, rather than trying to bring everyone under the inefficient and uncaring auspices of government beaurocrats? “Mediocrity and scarcity for all above excellence and plenty for most!” appears to be the liberal battle cry. Wow, your latest attack at “liberals” is almost as disjointed as Palin’s resignation speech. BTW, WTF does it have to do with the topic of this thread, Sarah Palin’s resignation? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/355 "2009-07-05T02:24:42Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > . . . the numerous citings of liberal hypocrisies that I post,. . . . I reacall three occasions when you made bold statements about such things, then noted that the [del]dog ate your homework[/del] computer swallowed your effort, but I don’t recall much more. OTOH, that does not seem to be relevant to Governor Palin’s odd remarks over the last couple of days, so you might want to open a new thread to discuss them–or demonstrate a direct tie-in to the governor’s decision to abandon her post. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/356 "2009-07-05T02:37:47Z")
> [@BMax](#): > > WTF does it have to do with the topic of this thread, Sarah Palin’s resignation? I don’t know. Ask **RTFirefly** , whose post I was answering. He’s the one who brought up health care, global warming and the recession? It’s amusing how you guys start screaming about off-topic responses you don’t like while invariably remaining mute about the off-topic claims that trigger them. > [@tomndebb](#): > > I reacall three occasions when you made bold statements about such things, then noted that the dog ate your homework computer swallowed your effort, but I don’t recall much more. And I recall an occasion when you accused me of behavior I had not been engaging in, and you refused to recant and apologize. Given that I was truthful in my comments whereas you weren’t, and given that you refused to recant and apologize because according to you I’d been mean to you in the past, I’d say the greater offense lies with you. **elucidator** loves to tag me as a ‘conservative gadfly’ who delights in exposing the hypocrisies of the left. While he is certainly correct, that comment alone doesn’t prove the point. Just do a search with **elucidator** as the poster and ‘conservative gadfly’ as the keywords, and I’m sure you’ll find them. But as has been shown with your accusations toward me before, you don’t like to engage in searches that prove you wrong, do you? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/357 "2009-07-05T02:57:17Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And I recall an occasion when you accused me of behavior I had not been engaging in, and you refused to recant and apologize. Given that I was truthful in my comments whereas you weren’t, and given that you refused to recant and apologize because according to you I’d been mean to you in the past, I’d say the greater offense lies with you. Take your mischaracterized complaints about other posters to the **Pit**. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/358 "2009-07-05T02:57:30Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I reacall three occasions when you made bold statements about such things, then noted that the [del]dog ate your homework[/del] computer swallowed your effort, but I don’t recall much more. > > OTOH, that does not seem to be relevant to Governor Palin’s odd remarks over the last couple of days, so you might want to open a new thread to discuss them–or demonstrate a direct tie-in to the governor’s decision to abandon her post. I can help. She’s a weasel and a chickenshit. There I said it. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/359 "2009-07-05T02:59:51Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > I can help. She’s a weasel and a chickenshit. There I said it. Take this to the **Pit** , as well. It really is not a discussion of Palin’s last couple of speeches. [/Modding] ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843/360 "2009-07-05T03:36:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Who are these other “honorable” quitters that she’s referring to? What the hell is she talking about? I just read that. “And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make.” Higher calling? Countless others? What the hell is she talking about? She also said she’s accomplished more in one term (of 2 1/2 years, not deducting the three months that she was on the VP campaign trail) than most governors do in two terms. The details of her accomplishments were not reported. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palin-resigns-as-gov-wtf/501843.md?page=19)