# Palin's church burned; suspected arson (RO)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 14, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136 "2008-12-14T18:03:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/1 "2008-12-14T18:03:26Z")

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[Link](http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/13/palin.church/index.html).

Regardless of what you think of other peoples’ religion or politics, arson is _not_ an acceptable method of expressing your disagreements.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/2 "2008-12-14T18:10:46Z")

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> [@Hunter\_Hawk](#):
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> [Link](http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/13/palin.church/index.html).
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> Regardless of what you think of other peoples’ religion or politics, arson is _not_ an acceptable method of expressing your disagreements.

One should also consider the possibility that it’s an insurance scam; or the work of a pyromaniac who could care less about the church; or that it’s even a sympathy play.

I remember people getting all worked up about the noose at Columbia University. Now it seems more likely than not it was a hoax.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/3 "2008-12-14T18:24:15Z")

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> [@Hunter\_Hawk](#):
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> Regardless of what you think of other peoples’ religion or politics, arson is _not_ an acceptable method of expressing your disagreements.

But what if you have a reasoned discussion and they _still_ don’t agree with you? Is arson OK then?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/4 "2008-12-14T18:37:22Z")

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Isn’t this evidence that God doesn’t like their church, or their denomination, or them? Whichever, God is pissed, and withdrew his holy sprinkler system.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/5 "2008-12-14T18:44:26Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> But what if you have a reasoned discussion and they _still_ don’t agree with you? Is arson OK then?

No, it’s not ok then. That’s when you shout and threaten them. If they don’t agree with you then, then it’s anonymous phone calls. It’s only if that doesn’t work that arson is ok.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/6 "2008-12-14T18:54:38Z")

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> A ladies’ craft group was in the building when the fire broke out, but they got out safely, Kroon said.

Well there’s your answer. Ladies’ craft groups are a recipe for disaster. Those bitches would crochet a nuke, if you gave them the right ingredients.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/7 "2008-12-14T19:01:13Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Whichever, God is pissed, and withdrew his holy sprinkler system.

:dubious: Wouldn’t God’s piss put out the fire anyway? I think the problem here is a lack of God’s piss

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/8 "2008-12-14T19:01:24Z")

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Oh man.

Folks, I’m sorry about the fire. I realize now that the priest was saying to get to Heaven we have to embrace our Son…

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/9 "2008-12-14T19:01:24Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> I remember people getting all worked up about the noose at Columbia University. Now it seems more likely than not it was a hoax.

Hoax or not, the intent was to inflict fear upon people.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/10 "2008-12-14T19:02:40Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> No, it’s not ok then. That’s when you shout and threaten them. If they don’t agree with you then, then it’s anonymous phone calls. It’s only if that doesn’t work that arson is ok.

At what step of the way do you send poison pen letters and blackmail threats?

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/11 "2008-12-14T19:04:18Z")

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Maybe it’s just the Alaskan music scene picking up steam.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/12 "2008-12-14T19:16:11Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> Maybe it’s just the Alaskan music scene picking up steam.

Wow…I didn’t even know Great White was playing Wasilla!

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**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/13 "2008-12-14T19:16:38Z")

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Is there even any evidence that it was politically motivated?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/14 "2008-12-14T19:24:19Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> No, it’s not ok then. That’s when you shout and threaten them. If they don’t agree with you then, then it’s anonymous phone calls. It’s only if that doesn’t work that arson is ok.

Well, sure, but I’m not much for confrontation. Why should I be denied a perfectly workable solution to a difference of opinion just because I prefer not to yell at people?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/15 "2008-12-14T19:49:40Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> I remember people getting all worked up about the noose at Columbia University. Now it seems more likely than not it was a hoax.

By whom, for what purpose?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/16 "2008-12-14T19:51:18Z")

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And if you pile up a paper trail of poison pen letters and phone bills they’ll CATCH you. Skip straight to arson and they’ll never suspect you.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/17 "2008-12-14T19:53:29Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And if you pile up a paper trail of poison pen letters and phone bills they’ll CATCH you. Skip straight to arson and they’ll never suspect you.

Especially if you’ve been reincarnated as a butterfly. No one ever suspects the butterfly.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/18 "2008-12-14T19:56:47Z")

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Well we know it wasn’t witches; it had been protected against them.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/19 "2008-12-14T20:28:24Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> Hoax or not, the intent was to inflict fear upon people.

How do you know what the intent was? So far, I don’t think we have any indication at all as to motive. I see no reason to automatically assume it had anything to do with Palin or politics.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-church-burned-suspected-arson-ro/477136/20 "2008-12-14T20:38:11Z")

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I wonder if it was the same guy who [threw his shoes at Bush today.](http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCRrAR5He4xY&refer=home) Man, people sure are getting rude these days.

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