# Palins Divorce

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 1, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000 "2009-08-01T20:54:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/101 "2009-08-03T21:40:17Z")

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The OP is like one of those shadow box optical illusion thingies. If I look at it long enough, it’s **Palin’s divorce** , but if I blink or look away, it suddenly becomes **Palins divorce** again.  
Slight note for the comparison: the Trig-wasn’t-her-baby (or was the rumor the other way around?) broke when the board was in that eerie place between servers (what was it called?), so with relaxed rules and all there was a bit more vitriol flying than usual.

I also think there is/was a malicious component to the Obama=terrorist/Kenyan/etc. rumors. Not that many Palin rumors aren’t politically motivated, cruel, or eeevil, but (IMHO), they fall more into the “what’s that weirdo Michale Jackson up to now” stories. Er, when he was alive, that is. Not that there weren’t ugly rumors there too (duh), but many of them were of the “OMG, his _nose_ fell off!” ilk.

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/102 "2009-08-03T21:42:05Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Are those actually “gotcha ya” as a phrase in itself, or examples along the lines of “gotcha, ya little punk”?

Jan 12th 2000:

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> This is dedicated to the fools who said they are going to ignore me in  
> here…GOTCHA YA, YOU IDIOTS!

Jan 21st 2000:

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> Any chick rattling on about music that only an idiot  
> could like is a bimbo. Gotcha ya.

And sorting by date kinda screwed things up, 'cos there’s another from Dec 24th 1997:

[Voice and WP5.1 (gotcha ya)](http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.med.transcription/browse_thread/thread/aebd4a56b87f2bcb/69a07fdbaf7bfa32?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Gotcha+ya%22#69a07fdbaf7bfa32)

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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/103 "2009-08-03T21:47:21Z")

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> [@Kal](#):
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> Also, if you do the search in Google Groups and sort by date, you’ll see examples going back to January 2000.

Indeed. There are [three examples](http://groups.google.com/groups/search?safe=off&q=%22gotcha+ya%22&btnG=Search&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2001&as_drrb=b&sitesearch=).

None of them are in the sense of “Gotcha ya!”

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/104 "2009-08-03T22:15:40Z")

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> [@Tenebras](#):
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> None of them are in the sense of “Gotcha ya!”

True, in as much as none involve positioning a corpse’s hand to look like a gun.

I mean, [GOTCHA YA, YOU IDIOTS!](http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.rasap/browse_thread/thread/8721214c75ad41bb/678f430e1c259e21?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=%22GOTCHA+YA!%22#678f430e1c259e21) comes close, bar the funeral-related japes.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/105 "2009-08-03T22:23:29Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I call all politicians I dislike dirty whores. Especailly when they’re family values hypocrites.

I think this is an offensive and unfair comparison. I am very disappointed in you.

What have whores ever done to you?  
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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/106 "2009-08-03T22:44:38Z")

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> [@Kal](#):
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> True, in as much as none involve positioning a corpse’s hand to look like a gun.
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> I mean, [GOTCHA YA, YOU IDIOTS!](http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.rasap/browse_thread/thread/8721214c75ad41bb/678f430e1c259e21?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=%22GOTCHA+YA!%22#678f430e1c259e21) comes close, bar the funeral-related japes.

Yeah there’s something weird about sorting by date. And when I started posting, your post wasn’t there yet. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/107 "2009-08-03T22:46:43Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> What have whores ever done to you?

To be fair, whores have a long history of fucking their clients…

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/108 "2009-08-04T00:00:26Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Let’s take the faked Palin pregnancy story for a moment, since it was to this that I drew an analogy. How many posters signed on to that story, by explicit acceptance or by uncritical or even gleeful tone when discussing it?
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> After it was debunked, how many made a point of saying anything along the lines of, “Gee, I was wrong to have done this?”

Still waiting to hear how many.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/109 "2009-08-04T00:10:20Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> Still waiting to hear how many.

Sounds like a good research project. There’s a search link. Use it.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/110 "2009-08-04T00:29:44Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Sounds like a good research project. There’s a search link. Use it.

Yes, because little ricky being slapped down again will finally get him to stop his argumentum ad infinitum bullshit.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/111 "2009-08-04T01:54:40Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> The OP is like one of those shadow box optical illusion thingies. If I look at it long enough, it’s **Palin’s divorce** , but if I blink or look away, it suddenly becomes **Palins divorce** again.

It’s a conspiracy of apostrophes. How can we blame the joos?

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/112 "2009-08-04T07:18:22Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Sounds like a good research project. There’s a search link. Use it.

Considering the high-quality search function here, that would take a few days at best. So to save time, could **Bricker** provide some links since he obviously remembers it happening?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/113 "2009-08-04T13:51:04Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> Considering the high-quality search function here, that would take a few days at best.

This is one of the reasons that we opened the board up to outside search engines. If you’d like to do some research, you might want to read [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=518829) for a good overview of how to search the SDMB using Google.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/114 "2009-08-04T14:15:50Z")

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> [@InvisibleWombat](#):
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> This is one of the reasons that we opened the board up to outside search engines. If you’d like to do some research, you might want to read [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=518829) for a good overview of how to search the SDMB using Google.

I hate to break up the technical digression, but did we suddenly enter a parallel universe where people are expected to substantiate dubious claims that they don’t agree with? Bricker posed the hypothesis; let him prove it.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/115 "2009-08-04T14:27:48Z")

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> [@Cosmic Relief](#):
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> I hate to break up the technical digression, but did we suddenly enter a parallel universe where people are expected to substantiate dubious claims that they don’t agree with? Bricker posed the hypothesis; let him prove it.

If this were GQ or GD, I’d agree with you wholeheartedly. But it’s the Pit. We don’t substantiate dubious claims here. We rant. We insult each other’s heritage, hygiene, parenthood, and genitals. We make broad, sweeping claims about the mental, ethical, and physical shortcomings of other people’s favorite politicians.

In GD, you’d say, “ **Posterboy** ’s hypothesis is dubious and lacks proof.”

In the Pit, you’d say, “ **Posterboy** is unintelligent, ugly, offensive, and gets his opinions from reading supermarket tabloids.”

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/116 "2009-08-04T14:30:41Z")

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OK, I did the googling. The answer is 24.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/117 "2009-08-04T14:31:41Z")

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But what I’d really like is for Bricker to back up his ‘poor pitiful persecuted pubs’ schtick with actual evidence.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/118 "2009-08-04T14:35:00Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> But what I’d really like is for Bricker to back up his ‘poor pitiful persecuted pubs’ schtick with actual evidence.

What we need here is some persecution, some _oppression_!

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/119 "2009-08-04T18:24:48Z")

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> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> No, any man that goes around calling women that clearly are not professional prostitutes “whore” probably has issues, perhaps with misogynism. Plus, it was a joke. Get over yourself.

She is a politician, you don’t get a higher level of professional prostitute than that.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/120 "2009-08-04T18:46:30Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> Still waiting to hear how many.

So far as I can recall, none.

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