# Palins Divorce

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 1, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000 "2009-08-01T20:54:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/121 "2009-08-04T18:55:23Z")

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> [@Cosmic Relief](#):
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> Sweet Jesus. It actually started **here**?
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> Bad SDMB. Bad.

Read the thread. It’s hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/122 "2009-08-04T19:53:12Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Really, anyone who facetiously calls a moral hypocrite a “whore” must be a child molester?

No, just a potty-mouth.

> [@Squink](#):
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> Those’ll be clever forgeries. 😉

Not like the Kenyan birth certificates of Barak HUSSEIN Obama. Those were totally real.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/123 "2009-08-04T20:38:03Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So far as I can recall, none.

I wondered if anyone was going to latch on to the point of your question.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/124 "2009-08-04T20:56:09Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I wondered if anyone was going to latch on to the point of your question.

What, that **Bricker** has a bad memory?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/125 "2009-08-04T21:24:49Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> What, that **Bricker** has a bad memory?

No, the other thing.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> Let’s take the faked Palin pregnancy story for a moment, since it was to this that I drew an analogy. How many posters signed on to that story, by explicit acceptance or by uncritical or even gleeful tone when discussing it?
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> After it was debunked, how many made a point of saying anything along the lines of, “Gee, I was wrong to have done this?”

The one that no Dopers who involved themselves in the Sarah-is-Trig’s-grandma fiasco came back and said “Gee, that was credulous of me. Sorry to have gone off half-cocked like that. Won’t happen again.”

Or were you asking how many posters “signed on”? If that was what you were asking, I think you could have been more clear about it.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/126 "2009-08-04T21:27:55Z")

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Well, it should be easy to establish who actually bought into it, declared it to be true, and then track them down and demand an apology. However, if it’s anything like this thread, I think it’s likely people merely discussed that there was a dubious rumor afloat and it’s Bricker’s selective memory that they believed it with all their heart and repeated the rumor as fact.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/127 "2009-08-04T22:22:32Z")

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The divorce is just a rumor, unsubstantiated gossip. It is about nothing and who cares if she does get one? When pols get more successful they tend to upgrade spouses anyway. She is suppose to be getting 11 mill for a autobiography. It appears to be interested in leaving Alaska. So much will change. But who knows or cares?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/128 "2009-08-04T22:24:20Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> She is suppose to be getting 11 mill for a autobiography.

Really? Shit. Move over Dan Brown, there’s a new standard for people who can’t write making it rich from writing a book!

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/129 "2009-08-04T22:27:03Z")

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Well, my only question is how it would affect her future in politics. I sure as hell don’t care what she does otherwise, but I am interested in, and welcome, anything that assures she has no future in politics.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/130 "2009-08-04T22:38:44Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Really? Shit. Move over Dan Brown, there’s a new standard for people who can’t write making it rich from writing a book!

((_POOR EDITOR!_)). Also.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/131 "2009-08-04T22:52:54Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So far as I can recall, none.

**Bricker** , who supported the rumor, and then did not apologize? Those are the people you should be attacking, instead of all of us usual suspects in general.

I remember in the thread(s) quite a few people not caring that much about the rumor, but being highly incensed at Palin’s flying from Texas to Alaska (and then driving to the hospital) after her water had broken in a high risk pregnancy.

Perhaps you’re conflating those posters with those who supported the rumor. Neither were, after all, very supportive of Palin.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/132 "2009-08-04T23:17:39Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> A faithless woman is among the worst things on earth to the patriarchal religious right. Jezebel! They’ll cry.

Jezebel was a good & loyal wife. What was Hosea’s wife’s name, Homer or something?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/133 "2009-08-04T23:23:11Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> **Bricker** , who supported the rumor, and then did not apologize? Those are the people you should be attacking, instead of all of us usual suspects in general.
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> I remember in the thread(s) quite a few people not caring that much about the rumor, but being highly incensed at Palin’s flying from Texas to Alaska (and then driving to the hospital) after her water had broken in a high risk pregnancy.
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> Perhaps you’re conflating those posters with those who supported the rumor. Neither were, after all, very supportive of Palin.

I remember **Shayna** ’s point being basically that one – either the rumor was true, or Palin was reckless for flying so close to her due date. I don’t recall too many others adopting that position.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/134 "2009-08-04T23:24:53Z")

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What does it mean to “sign on” to a rumor? If it means that a lot of us thought that it was plausible and to varying degrees likely, so what? I also thought Al Capone’s vault was likely to have cool stuff in it. If I buy a box of Cracker Jacks, should I apologize before finding out it’s another lame not-a-plastic-compass toy?

There is a difference between debating the plausibility of something and declaring its truth. You’re correct that people here are much more likely to give ugly Palin-based rumors the benefit of the doubt, but that is a far cry from actively promoting and professing their truth.  
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> [@Frank](#):
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> **Bricker** , who supported the rumor, and then did not apologize?

Heh… a simple change in punctuation and it looks like a really unfair epitaph. 😃

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/135 "2009-08-04T23:37:56Z")

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I think it’s worth noting that while Palin has denied the divorce, she has not denied the affairs.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/136 "2009-08-04T23:45:11Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> What does it mean to “sign on” to a rumor? If it means that a lot of us thought that it was plausible and to varying degrees likely, so what? I also thought Al Capone’s vault was likely to have cool stuff in it. If I buy a box of Cracker Jacks, should I apologize before finding out it’s another lame not-a-plastic-compass toy?

Because that’s precisely how rumors hurt. When the subject was Obama’s secret Muslimity, people here were furious that it was being thought plausible and discussed, because they realized that by the very act of discussing it, the meme spread. And well they should have been furious.

But when the subject is Palin, the gloves are off.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/137 "2009-08-04T23:49:44Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I think it’s worth noting that while Palin has denied the divorce, she has not denied the affairs.

Why? It’s kind of a bizarre thing to note. Are you saying that she hasn’t denied the affair because her personal ethics and morals prevent her from lying. If that’s the case, then are you also taking her denial of a divorce to heart? Or are you saying that all of a sudden she’s developed the ability to parse her sentences in a Clinton-like manner in order to avoid later criticisms? Wouldn’t she need to be able to parse a sentence in the first place?

Bizarre I tells ya!

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/138 "2009-08-04T23:50:13Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Heh… a simple change in punctuation and it looks like a really unfair epitaph. 😃

😕 Confused and seeing this post as unfair to **Bricker** or me, or both. Why would I post an unfair epitaph for **Bricker** when I’m perfectly capable of questioning his stances?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/139 "2009-08-04T23:54:14Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I think it’s worth noting that while Palin has denied the divorce, she has not denied the affairs.

\<montyburns\>Yes **Dio** , we all know what _you_ think.\</montyburns\>

That said, nothing about Sarah Palin is worth noting.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-divorce/505000/140 "2009-08-05T00:04:50Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> 😕 Confused and seeing this post as unfair to **Bricker** or me, or both. Why would I post an unfair epitaph for **Bricker** when I’m perfectly capable of questioning his stances?

First, note the smiley at the end (and the Rule against altering anything in quote tags). Now, consider the _original_:  
“ **Bricker** , who supported the rumor, and then did not apologize?”

Change a bit of end punctuation, add a couple words at the beginning to make it even clearer, carve it on a tombstone (granite or pizza, your choice), and you get a rather unfair epitaph:

“Here lies **Bricker** , who supported the rumor, and then did not apologize.”

😛

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