# Palin's out.  Anyone surprised?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 5, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730 "2011-10-05T22:31:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prelude_to_Fascination)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/41 "2011-10-06T13:27:13Z")

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> [@tnetennba](#):
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> It costs a lot of money to run for president. When someone drops out or decides not to run, you can bet the money isn’t there. She learned during that ill-fated bus tour that her hard-scrabble followers were all broke. I guess that’s the problem with having your core of support among the poorly educated. None of them have good jobs and can pony up bucks for your campaign.

While all that may be true, other evidence suggests the public is simply tired of her. Note the two movies about her:

_The Undefeated_ – release date July 15 2011. Gross box office as of August 11: $116,381

_Sarah Palin - You Betcha!_ – release date September 30 2011. Gross box office as of October 3: $6,911.

That translates to $6,513 and $1,152 per screen average, respectively.

All info from boxofficemojo (links - [http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=undefeated11.htm](http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=undefeated11.htm)[http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=sarahpalin.htm](http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=sarahpalin.htm)) . Her 15 minutes are up, unless she does something really wacky and/or newsworthy.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/42 "2011-10-06T13:30:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I was soooooo worried that she might be shackled to a title, preventing her from being mavericky and going rouge and all. This is such a relief!!

She will always be able to go rouge. And mascara. Those are the building blocks of her political career.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/43 "2011-10-06T13:35:17Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> In typical Sarah fashion, she timed it to put an end to Christie’s news cycle.

This is priceless. I can imagine her privately seething at the media–and GOP establishment–focus on Christie. He tried to say no (relatively) quietly, but Sara’s limelight wouldn’t leave him. This really hit a raw nerve–she took a sly dig at a Republican that had nothing to do with her other than garnering a bit of attention that used to belong to her:

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> “That was his seven millionth ‘no’ and I didn’t want to go through all of that, I just wanted to put the marker down and say ‘no, I’m not running,’ not have a big press conference about it, not make a whole big darn deal about it because this isn’t about me, this isn’t about Chris Christie,” Palin said.

]([http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/palin-i-didnt-want-to-make-a-big-deal-about-dropping-out-like-christie.php?ref=fpblg](http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/palin-i-didnt-want-to-make-a-big-deal-about-dropping-out-like-christie.php?ref=fpblg))

She’s so fucking modest, doncha know.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/44 "2011-10-06T13:50:24Z")

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Not much of a surprise. Quitting as governor probably ended Palin’s career as a legitimate political candidate. No matter how you try to spin it, it’s not exactly a shining testament to her ability to handle adversity.

I suppose some Republican candidate could always lose their mind and pick her for VP again, but I think the GOP has moved on to very slightly more credible nutty as a fruitcake candidates (although to date, neither Perry nor Bachmann has quite captured the Palin magic).

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/45 "2011-10-06T13:56:23Z")

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More money in speaking tours and shitty movies, polls said she couldn’t win, she backed out. Of course. And now to quote the always obnoxious, but often very funny, Bill Maher:

[QUOTE=Maher, when asked by Leno if he thinks Palin will enter the race]  
You know, why does everybody ask me this question? Everywhere I go people say to me, “Is Palin going to get in?” What am I, the idiot whisperer? How do I know what this daffy broad is going to do from one minute to the next?  
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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/46 "2011-10-06T14:49:35Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> In typical Sarah fashion, she timed it to put an end to Christie’s news cycle.

And it appears Steve Jobs quickly put an end to Sarah’s news cycle.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/47 "2011-10-06T16:31:23Z")

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She will shorty be announcing the iPalin, which will display various pics of her while users read her Tweets.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/48 "2011-10-06T16:33:39Z")

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The real question is: “Palin’s out. Anyone care anymore?”

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/49 "2011-10-06T16:43:33Z")

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Haven’t seen her statement, but I did see a report saying she wouldn’t go for the Republican nomination. Which of course leaves open the possibility of an independent Tea Party candidate.

I can see this. She doesn’t even have to do any real work. She just basks in the adoration of her people and cashes checks.

I wonder what the campaign fundraising rules are for someone whose position is, “Well, go ahead and vote for me if you feel you must. And go ahead and sign petitions to get me on the ballot in your state if you feel you must. And send me a check so I can continue to be a rogue and a maverick, win or lose.”

She would lose spectacularly of course, but she would be a few more million bucks ahead and still at the center of a media circus for a while longer.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/50 "2011-10-06T16:51:01Z")

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If anyones interested, I’ll give 2:1 odds that Palin won’t run any sort of third party campaign this election. She’s been trying to cash in ever since she left the Governorship, and the GOP establishment are the ones with the money. She won’t piss them off by running a spoiler candidacy.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/51 "2011-10-06T17:03:43Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> If anyones interested, I’ll give 2:1 odds that Palin won’t run any sort of third party campaign this election. She’s been trying to cash in ever since she left the Governorship, and the GOP establishment are the ones with the money. She won’t piss them off by running a spoiler candidacy.

If the eventual nominee offers any opening (e.g., Romney), I assume she’ll try and attract media attention by suggesting it.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/52 "2011-10-06T17:07:39Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> If the eventual nominee offers any opening (e.g., Romney), I assume she’ll try and attract media attention by suggesting it.

Suggesting it and then not doing that, either.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/53 "2011-10-06T17:15:19Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> If anyones interested, I’ll give 2:1 odds that Palin won’t run any sort of third party campaign this election. She’s been trying to cash in ever since she left the Governorship, and the GOP establishment are the ones with the money. She won’t piss them off by running a spoiler candidacy.

Sara doesn’t _run_. But she might _drift_ through a campaign run by others, for purely ego and financial gratification. And I think she’s already pissed off the GOP establishment, so she has nothing to lose there either.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/54 "2011-10-06T17:16:20Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Haven’t seen her statement, but I did see a report saying she wouldn’t go for the Republican nomination. Which of course leaves open the possibility of an independent Tea Party candidate.
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> I can see this. She doesn’t even have to do any real work. She just basks in the adoration of her people and cashes checks.
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> I wonder what the campaign fundraising rules are for someone whose position is, “Well, go ahead and vote for me if you feel you must. And go ahead and sign petitions to get me on the ballot in your state if you feel you must. And send me a check so I can continue to be a rogue and a maverick, win or lose.”
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> She would lose spectacularly of course, but she would be a few more million bucks ahead and still at the center of a media circus for a while longer.

Not. A. Chance.

She’s not going to risk being the Ralph Nader of the Right. No way, no how.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/55 "2011-10-06T17:19:50Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Sara doesn’t _run_. But she might _drift_ through a campaign run by others, for purely ego and financial gratification.

Why would anyone run a campaign for her at this point? I know she has a group of die-hards - I don’t know how many are left, but there are some - but why would anybody outside of that circle give his money or time on behalf of a candidate who doesn’t give a crap?

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/56 "2011-10-06T17:24:31Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Why would anyone run a campaign for her at this point? I know she has a group of die-hards - I don’t know how many are left, but there are some - but why would anybody outside of that circle give his money or time on behalf of a candidate who doesn’t give a crap?

Cuz she drives the libruls crazy! Herp derp.

-Joe

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/57 "2011-10-06T17:25:25Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Why would anyone run a campaign for her at this point? I know she has a group of die-hards - I don’t know how many are left, but there are some - but why would anybody outside of that circle give his money or time on behalf of a candidate who doesn’t give a crap?

I agree with your earlier post. Run? Not a chance. But tease, hint, or insinuate that she might? Very likely if she thinks she can attract media attention or otherwise boost her brand. If the nominee is a Perry, Bachman or Cain (or one of them is on the ticket) I think it will be less likely, but if it goes to say Romney and she sees a chance to suggest that the tea’ers were cut out, odds skyrocket.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/58 "2011-10-06T17:28:23Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Why would anyone run a campaign for her at this point? I know she has a group of die-hards - I don’t know how many are left, but there are some - but why would anybody outside of that circle give his money or time on behalf of a candidate who doesn’t give a crap?

Dunno. But the far right of the Republicans are not going to be satisfied with Romney, so it’s possible they will look for a “purer” candidate. I think all the other candidates are too beholden to the party to splinter off, except for Palin. She might be their only option.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/59 "2011-10-06T17:41:20Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Dunno. But the far right of the Republicans are not going to be satisfied with Romney, so it’s possible they will look for a “purer” candidate. I think all the other candidates are too beholden to the party to splinter off, except for Palin. She might be their only option.

Her mere existence doesn’t make her an option. I think she believes she oughta be president, but we can be pretty sure at this point that campaigning to get elected is too much bother. If they’re that upset, they’ll find somebody else.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-out-anyone-surprised/598730/60 "2011-10-06T17:44:50Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Dunno. But the far right of the Republicans are not going to be satisfied with Romney, so it’s possible they will look for a “purer” candidate. I think all the other candidates are too beholden to the party to splinter off, except for Palin. She might be their only option.

The far right hates Obama far more than it loves America. They’d hold their noses and vote for Lucifer himself rather than Obama. Sure, Romney’s a Mormon heretic. But he’s not a Muslim!

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