# Palin's vigilantes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 31, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417 "2010-03-31T02:40:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/21 "2010-03-31T04:33:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Is the Subaru poltically relevent to something? Don’t know a Subaru from a Suburban, so I may need a clue here. I thought it was supposed to be Volvos? [You might be a liberal if…](http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/archives/2004/you-might-be-a-liberal-if/) (from replies): > [@](#): > > You might be a liberal if you have a “stop outsourcing” bumper sticker on the back of your subaru as you drive into Canada to purchase cheaper prescription drugs. > > You drive a Subaru. Your Subaru has at least two of the three stickers: “Bush:One Term President.” “Attack Iraq? NO!” “Clinton lied, no one died.” And of course, mandatory issue for the stupid f’in Subaru drivers, your Kerry-Edwards 2004 sticker, which was placed carefully over your “Selected, not elected” sticker leftover from the 2000 elections. Subaru drivers are a social disease. The herpes of the US general population…. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/22 "2010-03-31T04:35:51Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Well, thanks for the invite, mighty neighborly of you! What’s for dinner? 🙂 Guns. With gun sauce and a side of guns. And Single-payer healthcare, abortion rights, equal rights for homosexuals, and maybe some nice salmon. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/23 "2010-03-31T04:39:35Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > NOW? > > Lemme guess, you’re new here in Oakwood Estates, ain’tcha? > > FTR, the Teabaggers had a national convention last month (or maybe “symposium” is a better term, since they don’t really want to be considered a political party _per se_), and one of the aspects of it that was controversial even among 'Baggers was that the charge for attending was so steep, presumably to pay for Mrs. Palin’s appearance fee. Sorry, the local crazies have been drawing my attention lately; what with throwing barrels of human blood over the PMs home and government house, grenades going off everywhere and loud protests causing sundry inconveniences. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/24 "2010-03-31T04:48:24Z")
Spot of bother, that. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/25 "2010-03-31T04:51:12Z")
Confronting random strangers in the parking lot over their political beliefs? Yeah, I’m sure that scheme’s going to end well. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/26 "2010-03-31T04:53:00Z")
I like you, **Johnny L.A.**! That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/27 "2010-03-31T04:53:21Z")
She’s not really condoning accosting Obama sticker drivers. Shes just fucking stupid. “So how is that hopey, changey thing working out for you?”. THAT?! That is her contribution to public discourse. I liked McCain but now eternally curse him for dredging this blue-light special Jerry Springer extravaganza from the trailer park sticks of bumfucked Alaska. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/28 "2010-03-31T05:26:31Z")
She is fucking stupid but I see no reason to think she doesn’t really want to provoke confrontations. “That hopey-changey thing” is line from a speech she gave a while back. She thinks it’s clever. She thinks she’s actually scoring points with it. She wants her fans to go out and spread her catch phrase. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/29 "2010-03-31T05:39:32Z")
Subaru? Aren’t they part of the Toyota Group? I thought they loved Toyota for not putting up with all that union crap and being located in the South. I’ve given up trying to make sense of wingnut mythologies anymore. It’s an incoherent laundry list of things to grouse about. I’ll bet the libruls use tire gauges on their Subarus! ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/30 "2010-03-31T06:00:27Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Guns. With gun sauce and a side of guns. And Single-payer healthcare, abortion rights, equal rights for homosexuals, and maybe some nice salmon. Can I have extra salmon instead of the guns? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/31 "2010-03-31T06:21:20Z")
> [@Manduck](#): > > Can I have extra salmon instead of the guns? You can, but the salmon are packing heat. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/32 "2010-03-31T07:02:17Z")
Wait - Subarus are liberal cars? So liberals are in favor of fast, well-made cars that never break down? Good for them. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/33 "2010-03-31T10:11:17Z")
> [@BrightNShiny](#): > > Subaru? Aren’t they part of the Toyota Group? I thought they loved Toyota for not putting up with all that union crap and being located in the South. > > I’ve given up trying to make sense of wingnut mythologies anymore. It’s an incoherent laundry list of things to grouse about. > > I’ll bet the libruls use tire gauges on their Subarus! Nope, Subaru is part of Fuji Heavy Industries. All their American plants are in the Pacific Northwest and Midwest. And I can’t call my Subaru a fast, well-made car that never breaks down. I’m going to have to junk mine because the entire power steering system needs to be replaced, the cooling system is being unpredictable and it keeps overheating in the summer, the heater/AC switching system doesn’t work, the interior is coming apart, it needs a new CV joint, new tie rods, and already had the struts replaced. Of course, it is a 1995. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/34 "2010-03-31T10:17:01Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Nope, Subaru is part of Fuji Heavy Industries. All their American plants are in the Pacific Northwest and Midwest. Hmm, the Wiki article on Subaru says that Toyota owns 8.7% of FHI and that Subaru has been “part of the Toyota group” from 2007 onwards. So, I guess that means that Toyota manages the sale and distribution of Subarus in the US? Or does that mean something else? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/35 "2010-03-31T10:55:07Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > She’s not really condoning accosting Obama sticker drivers. Shes just fucking stupid. “So how is that hopey, changey thing working out for you?”. THAT?! That is her contribution to public discourse. It seems an odd thing to object to, but let the record show: if Sarah Palin gets her way, there will be NO change…and no hope. (Ohh…bumper sticker! “Vote Palin in 2012, for no change and no hope”) ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/36 "2010-03-31T11:01:44Z")
It isn’t that Sarah Palin is a moron (she is), or that this whole idea is ludicrous (it is that, too). It’s that there are teabaggers who will do this because she told them to. I don’t drive a Subaru, and I don’t have any Obama bumper stickers on it. But maybe I will just so I can fuck with the teabaggers. That might be fun! I’ve got my counterarguments in place; something about 10% unemployment and budget deficits out the wazoo being acceptable to them might do it, but I also get a certain satisfaction in knowing that they’re being tools who are manipulated a hell of a lot more than any Obama-ite I’ve ever met, and I know a whole lot. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/37 "2010-03-31T11:14:31Z")
If people actually do get confronted because of what Palin said, and such confrontations rise to violence, as seems probably though hopefully not inevitable, of course Palin will deny having actually inspired any violence. But the outcome of a recent Minuteman, in which volunteers who were asked to come “locked, loaded and ready” [surprised organizers by actually bringing guns](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/minuteman_leader_when_i_said_to_come_to_the_border.php#more). Of course, these organizers had the good sense to see how this could make them criminally liable if something went wrong, and disbanded their organization to make their distancing from these people quite clear before some dipshit actually kills somebody. Palin, on the other hand, will naturally maintain her stridency even after some dipshit actually kills somebody while denying that she inspired any such thing intentionally or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/38 "2010-03-31T11:38:31Z")
Palin’s an evil bitch in a homey package, but I think you are over reacting. “stop them and say” is just a turn of phrase and means nothing more than if she just said “walk up to them and say” or “call out to them and say”. Also, what it is she suggests be said “hows that hopey changey thing etc” is not agressive or angry but just mildly teasing. Suggesting that she is hinting at support for physically stopping people for thuggish purposes is a stretch. Let’s comment on the substance and not just sound like whiney paranoids. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/39 "2010-03-31T12:11:59Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > She is fucking stupid but I see no reason to think she doesn’t really want to provoke confrontations. “That hopey-changey thing” is line from a speech she gave a while back. She thinks it’s clever. She thinks she’s actually scoring points with it. She wants her fans to go out and spread her catch phrase. I think we should steal it. I want a t-shirt that says “How’s that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?” on the front, and on the back, “Great! Thanks for asking.” It is cute and clever, IMO. That’s why we should co-opt it, turn it around on her/them. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417/40 "2010-03-31T12:34:35Z")
> [@Manduck](#): > > Can I have extra salmon instead of the guns? You can’t have guns, gun sauce, abortion rights, homosexual rights and salmon without the guns! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/palins-vigilantes/534417.md?page=3)