# Papa John's just can't help but shoot themselves in the butt.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 17, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293 "2018-06-17T22:46:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/41 "2018-06-21T21:49:41Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> I’ve yet to try a frozen pizza that wasn’t terrible so comparing them to Papa Murphy’s seems insane to me. I’d put Papa Murphy’s in the upper echelon of pizza places certainly above Dominos and pizza. The quality of ingredients alone makes them great and cooking them on a pizza stone makes their texture at least as good as a delivery pizza that has been in a hot box for 30 min waiting to get to me.

I dunno… it just didn’t seem materially different than a frozen pizza to me. Not actively bad, mind you, just sort of pointless- if I wanted convenience I’d get a frozen pizza or order one. If I wanted really good, I’d make it myself. This seemed like the worst of all worlds- you have to go get it, and you have to bake it yourself, but it doesn’t keep indefinitely like a frozen pizza will. And it’s fair-to-middling as far as the flavor is concerned.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/42 "2018-06-22T01:42:02Z")

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I’m sure that Papa Murphy’s does adjust their recipe to account for cooler ovens, but there’s bound to be some tradeoffs involved in that.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/43 "2018-06-22T14:52:33Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Does Murphy’s come with a tin underneath the pizza? I’ve been meaning to try them but I don’t think I have a pizza pan that big.

No it this special type of pan that helps with their crust. We have two in our area both with the five dollar fav and Tuesday special.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/44 "2018-07-12T04:12:42Z")

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The AP says

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> Papa John’s says founder John Schnatter has resigned as chairman of the board

No link yet; it’s a breaking news banner.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/45 "2018-07-12T04:15:42Z")

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About time. That asshole has been an anchor on the company for years. It’s not bad enough they make shitty pizza - they also have (had) a racist douchebag as Chairman.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/46 "2018-07-12T04:20:47Z")

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[CNN reported it 9 hours ago](https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/11/news/companies/papa-johns-pizza-john-schnatter/index.html), apparently.

30 minutes ago [a story got posted that says he resigned from the Board of Trustees of the University of Louisville](http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/24071818/papa-john-founder-john-schnatter-resigns-louisville-board-trustees), too.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/47 "2018-07-12T06:03:02Z")

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I thought I read about him being forced out a couple of weeks ago.

ETA: Left his CEO position on New Year’s Day.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/papa-johns-just-cant-help-but-shoot-themselves-in-the-butt/816293/48 "2018-07-12T15:11:30Z")

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[Moderating]  
I’m going to rule that that’s a separate topic from the OP, and should be discussed in another thread. Specifically, a thread in GD or (if you think it necessary) the Pit.

I think that this thread has run the course of its topic, so I’m going to close it. If anyone has anything more to add on the topic of the food quality or delivery policies of Papa John’s, PM me and I might re-open it.

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