# Paper Mario:  1000 Year Door question

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 12, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600 "2006-01-12T01:06:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/1 "2006-01-12T01:06:47Z")

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You’d think that between my Google skills and the over 100 hours I’ve played the game I’d be able to find the answer. Not the case.

I play this stupid game while I ride my exercycle. I’ve long since cleaned the clock of every foe on every level, and I was basically playing it to “finish” the damn game by achieving maximum heart, flower, and badge points.

It wouldn’t let me get more than 99 badge points. Great, I figured 99 or 100 would be the maximum for flower and heart points too!

But noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! When I hit 100 flower points, it invited me to go up to 105! Same for heart points! My Mario now stands at level 70, and I’m damn sick of the game.

Is there a maximum for Mario’s level? Can I eventually reach the limit for heart and flower points? Or am I doomed to pedal on forever, searching for Amayzee Dayzees to whack to get mucho stars?

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/2 "2006-01-12T05:02:47Z")

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Level 99. 200 for Flower Points and Heart Points. You’ve already hit the 99 badge limit.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/3 "2006-01-12T14:06:36Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> Level 99. 200 for Flower Points and Heart Points. You’ve already hit the 99 badge limit.

Thanks!

I don’t think I can stand to play it that long, tho.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/4 "2006-01-12T14:45:00Z")

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Yeah, the bsaic rule of thumb for most Japanese RPGs is thast the level cap is 99.

Or at least my limited experiencves have shown me this.

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**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/5 "2006-01-12T18:29:00Z")

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I know you’re sick of the game, but was it at least enjoyable? I’ve been meaning to play this, but the reviews I’ve read aren’t convincing (me at least). I guess I’m looking for more Super Mario 3 (not as great as 2, imo) or Super Mario 64.

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**Author:** ![audiobottle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@audiobottle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audiobottle)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/6 "2006-01-12T19:17:53Z")

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Paper Mario is awesome. Just plain awesome. Go get it.

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**Author:** ![audiobottle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@audiobottle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audiobottle)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/7 "2006-01-12T19:19:07Z")

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Oh, sorry, I should mention though that it’s not at all like the other SMB games. It’s a sort of RPG, so it’s more story-oriented with less actual action, although there’s still plenty of that. It seriously is great thogh.

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**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/8 "2006-01-12T20:15:39Z")

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Cool, thanks. I think I will go try it out. Is it anything like Super Mario legend of the 7 stars? I just remembered that. Except for the diagonal grid display, I immensely enjoyed that game, though I’m starting to think it’s the game that time forgot. Let’s add it to the list of games that I have yet to try and play:

Civ IV  
Morrowind  
Sims  
Wind Waker (ugh, yes, I know)  
Half-Life 2 (don’t start)  
Resident Evil 4

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/9 "2006-01-12T21:27:03Z")

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> [@mazinger\_z](#):
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> I know you’re sick of the game, but was it at least enjoyable? I’ve been meaning to play this, but the reviews I’ve read aren’t convincing (me at least). I guess I’m looking for more Super Mario 3 (not as great as 2, imo) or Super Mario 64.

Oh, it was a great game. I’m just not letting go yet. Mainly because it was so easy to play on the exercycle. I’d recommend it.

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/10 "2006-01-12T21:31:39Z")

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[Gamefaqs](http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/game/920182.html) is a great resource for gaming info, plus has game specific message boards.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/11 "2006-01-13T00:32:53Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> [Gamefaqs](http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/game/920182.html) is a great resource for gaming info, plus has game specific message boards.

That’s the site I used to answer a lot of my questions about the game, but I could not find the answers to this question there.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/12 "2006-05-15T02:04:34Z")

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I’m reviving this zombie thread just to let you all know that I finally reached level 99, so I can quit!!!

Actually I only played the damn game while exercising, and it did make a pleasant pastime as I peddled, but only sheer bloody-mindedness kept me going at it. I could kill anything with hardly any effort, and unless I was completely careless, nothing could hurt me much at all.

By the end, I achieved 200 flower points (it doesn’t allow for more) and 145 heart points. By level 98, I only got an extra star point if I killed _two_ Amayzy Dayzys at once, otherwise I got only one star point for finishing a battle no matter what I killed during the batle. Thankfully the damn game stopped spitting out star points once I hit level 99. Otherwise I fear I would have been compelled to go for 200 heart points too.

Now I’m back to doing Tetris on the old N64 while I exercise! When I’m sick of that, I’ll do Starfox or Pilotwings for a while. 😃

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**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2006, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/13 "2006-05-15T05:00:14Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> I’m reviving this zombie thread just to let you all know that I finally reached level 99, so I can quit!!!
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> Actually I only played the damn game while exercising, and it did make a pleasant pastime as I peddled, but only sheer bloody-mindedness kept me going at it. I could kill anything with hardly any effort, and unless I was completely careless, nothing could hurt me much at all.
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> By the end, I achieved 200 flower points (it doesn’t allow for more) and 145 heart points. By level 98, I only got an extra star point if I killed _two_ Amayzy Dayzys at once, otherwise I got only one star point for finishing a battle no matter what I killed during the batle. Thankfully the damn game stopped spitting out star points once I hit level 99. Otherwise I fear I would have been compelled to go for 200 heart points too.
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> Now I’m back to doing Tetris on the old N64 while I exercise! When I’m sick of that, I’ll do Starfox or Pilotwings for a while. 😃

Impressive! Did you just play the Pit of 100 trials over and over? That’s hardcore! Are there even enough badges to fill up 99 badge points?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paper-mario-1000-year-door-question/339600/14 "2006-05-17T12:57:04Z")

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> [@Yumblie](#):
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> Impressive! Did you just play the Pit of 100 trials over and over? That’s hardcore! Are there even enough badges to fill up 99 badge points?

Yeah, I did the pit perpetually. And I had more than enough badges to use all the 99 badge points on. I wish I could have gone higher on badge points, I could have made Mario even more powerful.
