# Paradise in the Book of Genesis, the origin of man **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 6, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paradise-in-the-book-of-genesis-the-origin-of-man/614879 "2012-03-06T01:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paradise-in-the-book-of-genesis-the-origin-of-man/614879/21 "2012-03-07T19:38:16Z")
> [@Simple\_Mind](#): > > First time I hear this one, do you relate to the Bloodlines I mentioned or the Caucasian? The ‘bloodlines’ I mention are actually spiritual bloodlines and spiritually families, not physical. A single physical family all born and pure of bloodline in the physical world can have members of differing spiritual families and also differing classes. So no it would not be caucasian, but some are caucasian. The physical traits and bloodlines are there just as hints to what is really going on that usually remains unseen, and the physical traits also serve as a physical distraction to stage us to fight each other instead of understanding that we are fighting our own brothers and sisters. > [@](#): > > The Caucasian I would believe are the ones that conquered Europe and Northern Africa and I think that’s how the Catholic Church and the Realms spread out and controlled everything. I see the physical races as a distraction, the ruling Caucasians would be in a different class then the common ones. > [@](#): > > Love leading to sex, sure, but we got PORN instead, did you mean PORN? You may have porn, and if that’s what your into, God bless you, whatever floats your boat. Actually porn seems to be a distraction to love but can also indirectly lead to children. > [@](#): > > Hybrid because of interbreeding with this Bloodlines or Genetically modified? Interbreeding ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paradise-in-the-book-of-genesis-the-origin-of-man/614879/22 "2012-03-07T21:09:18Z")
> [@Simple\_Mind](#): > > There are everywhere evidences of highly developed societies, technologically and intellectually in the past, some things I read was in the sense of, that there was a “thing” that guided us in our development. Really? What evidence is this? Though progress is not linear (the Romans had many things not seen again for over 1,000 years) we are certainly more advanced than any civilization in the past. But those in down periods often make up legends of the the glorious past when they were on top. The Davidic empire is one such legend. Everyone respected David and Solomon, which was not the case for the kings running things at the time the Bible was being written. > [@](#): > > Last Sunday I had a long talk with a retired Norwegian Teacher, 84 years old and still very bright, > the subject of the Book of Genesis came up and I listen to his account, he mentioned that some of the off-springs of Adam and Eve, went and found women’s to marry, the question came up where this women came from. > Hence my thinking afterwards, it would make sense in a way, to see it as I stated in my OP. Typically the answer was they married sisters. Where the people who populated the city Cain founded came from is a tougher question. But they weren’t real big on consistency in those days. > [@](#): > > If we assume that HE created a “Paradise” world (never-mind in how many days) and then created “Beings” to live in this world, what was HIS reasoning to create this “Paradise” world, if, as I mentioned, there was already a world (Our), maybe he wanted this Beings to be pure and uncontaminated, they where not to eat the fruit of wisdom and knowledge. (we clearly missed the wisdom part but we pursue the quest for knowledge at all cost) > Anyway they got kicked out of Paradise, if I would have been the Creator I would have made a second attempt and would make very sure that there are no Serpents around this time… But if you were actually the Creator you would have gotten it right the first time. The Creation story as I learned it in Hebrew School is a Just-So story. How did we start, are we important, and why do we have to work, why is childbirth painful, and why do snakes like to bite us? Satan and original sin got added later by Christians, but aren’t in the actual text. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@Simple\_Mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Mind)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paradise-in-the-book-of-genesis-the-origin-of-man/614879/23 "2012-03-08T14:06:01Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > The ‘bloodlines’ I mention are actually spiritual bloodlines and spiritually families, not physical. A single physical family all born and pure of bloodline in the physical world can have members of differing spiritual families and also differing classes. > > So no it would not be caucasian, but some are caucasian. The physical traits and bloodlines are there just as hints to what is really going on that usually remains unseen, and the physical traits also serve as a physical distraction to stage us to fight each other instead of understanding that we are fighting our own brothers and sisters. > I see the physical races as a distraction, the ruling Caucasians would be in a different class then the common ones. > > You may have porn, and if that’s what your into, God bless you, whatever floats your boat. Actually porn seems to be a distraction to love but can also indirectly lead to children. > > Interbreeding I have read about parallel Universes or other dimensions, this is mostly esoteric and very hard to grasp, I have to admit that some of it sounds (with a lot of imagination) at least possible. The stuff that seems to have the most support is “Cabala” , plenty of different groups have been/are active with at times plenty of followers in upper class society. Is “Cabala” what you mean? I have at times the feeling that there seems to be a guiding to my plans or that near fatal accidents are avoided by some “power” intervention, I also see a lot of things that are going on, that when I try to talk about it, people don’t seem to care. I live in an exotic place, it was discovered by “Magellan”, the Spanish had it occupied for 300 years, was “Liberated” by the USA and is since 70 years independent but (even today) under Uncle Sam’s watchful eye. Raped by the Roman Catholic Church up to now, paying their tribute to Rome, a very special society indeed and this in Asia! Could you supply me with some reading about what you are talking about? ---
**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paradise-in-the-book-of-genesis-the-origin-of-man/614879/24 "2012-03-15T20:38:00Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Your Don’t worry about this - your written English is quite good (better, I think, than some people for whom English _is_ a first language). > > Trouble is, all of this is wild, imaginative speculation. > > There’s nothing exactly wrong with with wild speculation (it is, after all, the basis for great literature, screenplay, etc), but if we’re trying to construct a useful description of the way the world works, we need a way of deciding whether this particular example of wild speculation is better or worse than any other particular example. Otherwise, we’re just writing stories. Yeah. Truth be told, you could go do a PhD on human origins and still have only barely scratched the surface. It’s a really interesting topic, but the fact that there is still so much disagreement indicates that humanity, as a whole, is not convinced one way or another. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paradise-in-the-book-of-genesis-the-origin-of-man/614879.md?page=1)