# Parental nightmare YouTuber Andrew Tate busted - and you won't believe by whom!

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**Created:** [December 30, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317 "2022-12-30T02:58:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/61 "2023-01-10T21:11:12Z")

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Romania is part of the EU, but it is not (yet) part of the **[Schengen Area](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area).** In principle there should not be totally free movement into Romania from other EU territories.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/62 "2023-01-10T23:13:55Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Let’s hope they can get him on the far more heinous crimes too, but the more they have to keep him behind bars the better.

Fingers crossed. Let’s hope the women aren’t too terrified to testify against him. I’d be plenty scared if I was them.

> [@Princhester](#):
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> The pizza box thing got sexed up till its false.

I know, I never bought that story. I just thought it was funny.

> [@enipla](#):
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> I and most folks had never heard of this asshole.

Me neither, but if he made $100 million flogging tips on how a “real man” treats women, a lot of people must have been aware of him.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Unfortunately a new crop of boys turns 12 every single day.

Unfortunately, this is spot on. There seems to be no shortage of an audience for this crap.

> [@mcgato](#):
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> GRETA: There is a European group that investigates human trafficking that uses the acronym GRETA (Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking of Human Beings, in English). Tate was presumably tipped off that GRETA was after him, and he assumed that they meant Greta Thunberg. Thus started the out of the blue twitter battle, quickly won by Thunberg.

No shit? Do you have a link to him mixing the two up?

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> In principle there should not be totally free movement into Romania from other EU territories.

I assume money makes that principle bend a little bit when it’s needed. Or, indeed, having young women you can force to do “favors”. Yes, I’m cynical.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/63 "2023-01-10T23:22:35Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> Unfortunately, this is spot on. There seems to be no shortage of an audience for this crap.

I mean, I can’t really blame 12-year-olds for being idiots. Idiocy is part of growing up.

This guy, though, him I can blame.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/64 "2023-01-10T23:28:37Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> Me neither, but if he made $100 million flogging tips on how a “real man” treats women, a lot of people must have been aware of him.

I’m very skeptical of this claim. I’ve seen the stats of 100K+ subscribers and $50/month, but I don’t believe his monthly revenue is even 1/10 that. I believe the audience is there, but that many teenage incels with the means to pay $50 month after month, and willing to do so?

I think it’s more likely he’s had that many sign-ups overall, with the vast majority paying for one month or getting a free trial. And I bet most of his money is coming from trafficking and other criminal activity.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/65 "2023-01-10T23:29:53Z")

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In the meantime, I’ve seen plenty of stories about parents who asked their teenage sons about him, and the ones who were old enough to be in high school almost invariably said things like “I used to think he was funny, but now, I think he’s a total douche.”

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/66 "2023-01-10T23:32:23Z")

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A student in my 3rd period Government class (Grade 12), when some girls bad-mouthed the douchebag - “But he’s got a _Bugatti_.”

So no, growing older doesn’t mean growing up.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/67 "2023-01-10T23:33:22Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> I think it’s more likely he’s had that many sign-ups overall, with the vast majority paying for one month or getting a free trial. And I bet most of his money is coming from trafficking and other criminal activity.

What objective evidence is there of him having much money? The cars and houses will be leased.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/68 "2023-01-10T23:37:25Z")

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Most people would probably want to know what a Bugatti is.

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**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/69 "2023-01-11T13:50:48Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> No shit? Do you have a link to him mixing the two up?

I don’t think there will ever be definitive proof or an admission from him about it. I got it from following the reddit threads from when Tate made a twitter attack on Thunberg. There was really no obvious reason for Tate to go after Thunberg, it was pretty much out of the blue. The steps went something like:  
–Haha, Thunberg torched Tate. Haha!  
[Tate gets arrested]  
–Haha, Tate gets taken down by Thunberg.  
–It’s ironic that the group that arrested him uses the acronym GRETA. GRETA and Greta to take down Tate. Haha!  
–It could be that Tate got tipped off that GRETA was after him, and he thought it was referring to Greta Thunberg.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/70 "2023-01-11T14:01:51Z")

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And that is how legends and myths are born these days.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/71 "2023-01-11T15:45:56Z")

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It’s not all that far fetched. If you just google GRETA, you’re going to get a lot of Greta Thunberg hits. I have to put in something like “GRETA organization” to avoid that.

There’s maybe a weaker possibility that he’s not quite that dumb, but when googling to research GRETA she just came into his consciousness and he thought it would get him some attention to attack her.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/72 "2023-01-11T16:50:30Z")

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Sorry for being very late to this thread, but the cut to the Curb theme song while douchebro is being arrested cracked me up!

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/73 "2023-01-13T13:50:25Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Unfortunately a new crop of boys turns 12 every single day.

I don’t think there’s anything about turning 12 that makes you likely to support a misogynist.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/74 "2023-01-13T14:11:41Z")

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Not necessarily.

But the point is that each kid of whichever gender needs to learn how to be an adult, a process that takes years. “12” was just a convenient arbitrary marker for the typical beginning point of physiological sexual maturity.

The psycho-social maturation problem, whichever specific aspect of it we want to discuss, won’t _stay_ fixed. It must be continuously renewed on a never-ending supply of new humans who each individually need to be socialized, not left feral.

I think it’s self-evident beyond need of proof that in the feral human state, there’s a lot of what we now label as misogyny and misandry. Both of which (most of) current society would prefer to train out of our collective kids.

That work will be never ending because we’re basically fighting an undesirable aspect of human nature using a better aspect of human nature.

I mean nothing more. Also nothing less.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I think it’s self-evident beyond need of proof that in the feral human state, there’s a lot of what we now label as misogyny and misandry.

I don’t think it’s self-evident beyond need of proof. I think it’s something that people have been taught.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/76 "2023-01-13T23:32:12Z")

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There’s a story that’s circulated widely on Facebook in recent years, where a parent is giving advice to a tween-aged son who is interested in a girl and asked her out, and she told him no. The parent says, “And what do you do now?” and he replies, “Ask her again, I guess.” Parent says, “No, she isn’t interested; leave her alone” and THIS is often interpreted as misogyny.

No, it’s not! It’s part of growing up.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/77 "2023-01-14T00:18:14Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> The parent says, “And what do you do now?” and he replies, “Ask her again, I guess.” Parent says, “No, she isn’t interested; leave her alone” and THIS is often interpreted as misogyny.
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> No, it’s not! It’s part of growing up.

It’s an example of how the culture teaches misogynistic ideas and parents have to actively counter them.

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**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/78 "2023-01-14T06:30:13Z")

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So we are all ok with “Small dick energy”? Because those 12 year old boys you are talking about are for sure worried about the size of their unit. Don’t think that kind of takedown should be celebrated.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/79 "2023-01-14T12:43:03Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I don’t think it’s self-evident beyond need of proof. I think it’s something that people have been taught.

We shall agree to disagree and I will bow out of this hijack. I don’t want to turn a news thread into yet another rehash of the “Battle of the Sexes”.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parental-nightmare-youtuber-andrew-tate-busted-and-you-wont-believe-by-whom/977317/80 "2023-01-14T18:05:36Z")

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> [@Quint](#):
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> Because those 12 year old boys you are talking about are for sure worried about the size of their unit.

If it creates in them an association that “secure men don’t need to brag about their Bugattis”, it may be a tolerable price to pay; though myself I am not fond of the “compensating for something” line about cars, guns, etc. at least let them learn to not be obnoxious about it.

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